Buff Warrior

[täisdibla]

Do you think I'm bringing only myself as an example in this case? Go on any D4 archer and try out your desire rares then. That will be a sight to see.

How about the right rare and right skills u promised to teach us warriors to use.

I won't. My brother will, but he rarely levels like me, so you'll have to wait 2-3 years or so for him to reach 200 TT.

[jesse]

I won't. My brother will, but he rarely levels like me, so you'll have to wait 2-3 years or so for him to reach 200 TT.

Oh what a disppointment

[täisdibla]

Just tested a bit in game. 109 TT double macing using D1 mace, mantle of dragon and g4 force hit 16xx damage with Zerk on a target that had 205 AC and SFD. 18xx after AC reduction.
If you have G18-20 force and g9 desire and 200 TT, that means you'll deal at least 2x that damage, which is at least 3200 per normal hit and at least 6400 per piercing hit. You will also drop AC, so you'll eventually hit over 7k at least and at least +13k with each desire proc.

Are you saying that is low damage?

Edit: Keep in mind those results are with a 205 AC target with SFD. Different people have different AC. Some more ( candle ), some less.
I have a question for you, Jesse. How much do you hit on a tactic pole with Zerk?

[jesse]

Just tested a bit in game. 109 TT double macing using D1 mace, mantle of dragon and g4 force hit 16xx damage with Zerk on a target that had 205 AC and SFD. 18xx after AC reduction.
If you have G18-20 force and g9 desire and 200 TT, that means you'll deal at least 2x that damage, which is at least 3200 per normal hit and at least 6400 per piercing hit. You will also drop AC, so you'll eventually hit over 7k at least and at least +14k with each desire proc.

Are you saying that is low damage?

Yes its low damage.

Same warrior u use for the test, when he gets D4:

AC = same as archer, or 14 white AC higher with D3 axe
HP = 20k more than archer
Attack Single hit Melee = equal to archer (full force) or 55~60% (when archer shoot with max distant and force)
Attack Skill hit = 1/6 of Archer multi. 1/8 of Archer ex fire

So your warrior is basically a fat archer with a heavy stick to hit melee.

Same AC, 20k more HP, and alot more lower damage, is called low damage.

[täisdibla]

Just tested a bit in game. 109 TT double macing using D1 mace, mantle of dragon and g4 force hit 16xx damage with Zerk on a target that had 205 AC and SFD. 18xx after AC reduction.
If you have G18-20 force and g9 desire and 200 TT, that means you'll deal at least 2x that damage, which is at least 3200 per normal hit and at least 6400 per piercing hit. You will also drop AC, so you'll eventually hit over 7k at least and at least +14k with each desire proc.

Are you saying that is low damage?

Yes its low damage.

Same warrior u use for the test, when he gets D4:

AC = same as archer, or 14 white AC higher with D3 axe
HP = 20k more than archer
Attack Single hit Melee = equal to archer (full force) or 55~60% (when archer shoot with max distant and force)
Attack Skill hit = 1/6 of Archer multi. 1/8 of Archer ex fire

So your warrior is basically a fat archer with a heavy stick to hit melee.

Same AC, 20k more HP, and alot more lower damage, is called low damage.

One pierce hit ( will do after it's fixed ) = 2x damage on SFD targets, 3x damage on DS targets. Not to mention you will constantly drop AC. Also, you can poke one of those in every second. You cannot ex fire someone every second. 14 white AC is a lot, also if you use the laser mace you can get +50 Lightning resist for Blood Lightning.

You are a pierce warrior, so your AC is even higher. Also, 20k is a BIG difference and that 20k is without Tyberns bug ( which you can do as well ).

You aren't a fat archer, you're a warrior. You can't burst someone down but you are the best at raping potions because you can't easily be killed and you do moderate damage, if not high. If you want more burst, go fencing as I said earlier.

[sillon]

How Thief can use Pepsi/Ice armor at same time? ... just want everyone understand how class/rares/skills work.

ROFL.....

ROFL a lil more, Yes, but explain to everyone how a thief use Ice Shield and can be support class please.

As an supporter, i rather be thief cause i can Invis + Pepsi + Ice Armor, not to talk about running speed.

[täisdibla]

Yes, explain me how a thief use Ice Shield and can be support class.

Get over it, Sillon. Perhaps he didn't mean using all at once. Anyway this is irrelevant and provides nothing to the discussion. Shoo.

I forgot to mention that warrior armours have more AC. Red prayer/Shadow Dancer have 4 AC more than Valkanes/Turbulence. Every single bit counts.

Offtopic: Being a 200T Double Mace warrior is like a dream for me in DR. I just know I will never achieve it though, so I won't even try. I've always revered warriors as the gods of end game PvP in this game.

[Eleval]

Offtopic: Being a 200T Double Mace warrior is like a dream for me in DR. I just know I will never achieve it though, so I won't even try. I've always revered warriors as the gods of end game PvP in this game.

Get 200TT on a grapple warrior and I give you 1 RE

[täisdibla]

Mmmmh grapple. :drool:

This isn't a buff, but... why is there still no visual upgrade for grapple warrior. Just give them the Nova Iskra Gauntlet's claws without the flame effect. Maybe more people will be attracted to it. I suggested this long ago and they said it was hard to implement, then someone else came in and said it was easy because you only need remove the effect.

[mofomaycry]

So many archers talking about warriors lol, interesting.
Both Firestyle and Thomas are not reach the max tt(which means you can still get damage increase), d4(which means your desire rare sux right now), and Lv150(which means your ex is not lv3).
Jesse is max tt with G9 set(weapon G7) d4 lv150 warrior, i do play it a lot of time. You guys got no idea whats the situation here after this patch.
Let GM deal with it.
BTW ReturnFighter hits me 3.9k ex without z. I(D4 wiz with 199ac) have twinkle directly died in a single ex due to his 200tt and G9 desire, G17 force, G7 ac, and hes fkin D2 right now, what a joke, after he done his robber, will be more "fun" then.

archers already so hard to survive even with full hp,so i really don't know how geng could a archer be with robber n desire ;s
but robber n desire archer is fun ;s