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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby SimpleStupid » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:16 pm

So many archers talking about warriors lol, interesting.
Both Firestyle and Thomas are not reach the max tt(which means you can still get damage increase), d4(which means your desire rare sux right now), and Lv150(which means your ex is not lv3).
Jesse is max tt with G9 set(weapon G7) d4 lv150 warrior, i do play it a lot of time. You guys got no idea whats the situation here after this patch.
Let GM deal with it.
BTW ReturnFighter hits me 3.9k ex without z. I(D4 wiz with 199ac) have twinkle directly died in a single ex due to his 200tt and G9 desire, G17 force, G7 ac, and hes fkin D2 right now, what a joke, after he done his robber, will be more "fun" then.
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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby Dragonrajashop » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:43 pm

If you continue you to hit after using extreme lightning, extreme lightning does no damage. Just an FYI...

Looks like what I was talking to you about... being pure annoying is gonna be my goal :)
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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby Thomas » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:52 pm

SimpleStupid wrote:So many archers talking about warriors lol, interesting.
Both Firestyle and Thomas are not reach the max tt(which means you can still get damage increase), d4(which means your desire rare sux right now), and Lv150(which means your ex is not lv3).
Jesse is max tt with G9 set(weapon G7) d4 lv150 warrior, i do play it a lot of time. You guys got no idea whats the situation here after this patch.
Let GM deal with it.
BTW ReturnFighter hits me 3.9k ex without z. I(D4 wiz with 199ac) have twinkle directly died in a single ex due to his 200tt and G9 desire, G17 force, G7 ac, and hes fkin D2 right now, what a joke, after he done his robber, will be more "fun" then.


got 190tt and g8 rares..+10tt and 1grade higher rare will make my damage so hard i can kill warriors/priests? In my calculations i have considered archer damage as 200tt
you have spells like pfm and ds.. 199ac g8smart and ds i belive no archer can easily kill wizard, even now when full ex 190tt and max force, cant kill wizard unless use stroke.
G9desire+g17force+g7ac is impossible unless hes using rare bow, in witch case he discard more than g7force not using d2/d3 bow.

Fact is that archer is still worse than thief and still doesent do as much damage as it has discarded defence.
If my thief had same tt and lg as my archer i would delete the archer anytime even if that thief is d2, he still is at some point much more superior than a d3 or d4 archer.

You should try playing archer.

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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby ZAX » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:10 pm

First of all, I do wanna point out

Warrior Support -
Bark Blade - can't cast with SFD
Poison Nova - Can't cast with PRO
So basicly, warrior hasn't live up to it's max potential
As an supporter, i rather be thief cause i can Invis + Pepsi + Ice Armor, not to talk about running speed

If someone can't kill with theif or archer ex, i think is not the ex skill's fault, is about skills (20% damage increased?)
Regarding warrior, with skill or no skill , just can't do shit cause the potential is not there
The ex skill in warrior are all trash, useless
Warrior also dont hv ice armor to prevent getting pepsi unlike thief
So dont even go there and talk about warriors are gd at support

I dont understand why people think 2.5k per sec is better than 4Kx8 per sec
Archer can do much more than 4k also, is either ur rares are noob or low TT
And as i talked about, Warriors are the most difficult class to lv up Tactics
Shouldnt that be a bonus and worth the work ?
And why there's no shield legends
Everyone can use a shield, wts the difference
I can train a D4 priest and call myself a warrior
I suppose no one will argue with me

Just really sad to see all this is happening
With max rares, nth seems to worth the effect
Try imagen ur G9 Br or G9 Distance give u 1k damage increase wt will u think
My damage on Monster is 21k , hit on a priest or buffed char turns 3k
Wow, so fair, so fun, trash dmg, trash skills, cant even run from a fight cause walk too slow
In war, always hv to stay def cause walk too slow. 3k per sec ? piss off
With the lowest moving speed in game, u expect to hit a poor dude non stop, wt a joke
Weakest Warrior class in any game play history? Anyone ?
I use to blame on myself instead of the game
Hvnt max rares, not maxed out TT, maybe things would be changed as I reach the point
I am not a stupid D1 or D2 complaining oh my class is weak
Remember I do have the right to complain cause I did wt i can to make myself strong
And as i said, the potential is not there

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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby SimpleStupid » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:31 pm

Thomas wrote:
SimpleStupid wrote:So many archers talking about warriors lol, interesting.
Both Firestyle and Thomas are not reach the max tt(which means you can still get damage increase), d4(which means your desire rare sux right now), and Lv150(which means your ex is not lv3).
Jesse is max tt with G9 set(weapon G7) d4 lv150 warrior, i do play it a lot of time. You guys got no idea whats the situation here after this patch.
Let GM deal with it.
BTW ReturnFighter hits me 3.9k ex without z. I(D4 wiz with 199ac) have twinkle directly died in a single ex due to his 200tt and G9 desire, G17 force, G7 ac, and hes fkin D2 right now, what a joke, after he done his robber, will be more "fun" then.


got 190tt and g8 rares..+10tt and 1grade higher rare will make my damage so hard i can kill warriors/priests? In my calculations i have considered archer damage as 200tt
you have spells like pfm and ds.. 199ac g8smart and ds i belive no archer can easily kill wizard, even now when full ex 190tt and max force, cant kill wizard unless use stroke.
G9desire+g17force+g7ac is impossible unless hes using rare bow, in witch case he discard more than g7force not using d2/d3 bow.

Fact is that archer is still worse than thief and still doesent do as much damage as it has discarded defence.
If my thief had same tt and lg as my archer i would delete the archer anytime even if that thief is d2, he still is at some point much more superior than a d3 or d4 archer.

You should try playing archer.


1. Pfm doesnt make sense here, most wiz use twinkle and pro. I use ds sometimes when rangers have Z. Both spells dont prevent you from curses.
2. As a ranger, DESIRE is more important than force, it ignore your smart and do much more effect than force. 200tt G18 force is MUCH worse than 180tt G9 force/desire combination.
3. DS bow has 151-155 white damage, and D2 bow has 174-178 white damage, i dont know how did you calculate the G7 force discarded.
4. This post is talking about buffing warrior damage, archer/thief situation is in other posts. Dont compare every class with archer, pointless.
5. Yes, i got a D1 archer with 13x tt.

Sorry for the off-topic. Lets back to the warriors part!
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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby Thomas » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:50 pm

Compare DS bow and Fire bow.
DS Bow 155damage, Fire bow 189+15 (205)
Since z adds damage to white attack and not blue grade rare, it comes total around g7 worth of damage, you can see comparision when you put ds bow and a g7force and test your damage with z, then change to fire bow and take away that g7 force , the damage is around the same or even less.

BUT OK; talk about warrior.

I did some testing today:
Blood will lvl1 combat skill, 131tt fencer g0 (noting) force hitting 29-33k damage to tt pole.
Is this not enough?
Think when 200tt with g20force would hit atleast 50k.... thats same as i hit incrased ac drop with thomas 190tt g20distant g7force
Prove me wrong :) but that damage is insane for a warrior.

Also new lightning boom hits like 3x multishot and you can hit them faster than archer hits multishot as i tested today. (that is seems that arche attack animation is slower than normal attack or something like that)
Still not enough damage?

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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby jesse » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:01 pm

You guys' logic is very funny.

Shark posted about buffing warriors damage, Thomas and firestyle tried to teach him choose the right rare and right skills.

But after i said shark and i already have g9 force/desire set and ask what skill u want to teach us, u put some archers rares and damage on the table, which u did not answer and teach us how to play.

But after i compared dmage between archer & warrior's, then u guys say archers can not kill warriors 1v1.

But after i compared on 1vs1 duel with force rares explaining warriors will run outta pots first and die, then u said archers will die first cause of warrior's ca/st. (Didn't u teach us to use force/desire?)

But after Simple said u guys don't have d4 warrior's playing experience, then u use the example of your d1 fenser to prove blood earth, a useless skill on tt pole to show us how to deal damage.

But then u say because of blood earth, a skill that nobody is using and will not be using, is very powerful, so theres no need for warriors to ask for buff.
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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby jesse » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:06 pm

Posted on cellphone, cant type normally, sorry for the duplicated words

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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby Toni » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:13 pm

The truth about Warrior's is, that in every other mmorpg (except Dragonraja)
Warrior deal alot damage, have slow attackspeed, with alot of HP.
In Dragonraja they have:
low damage, slow attackspeed, but alot HP.

Easy example: When you start a new mmorpg, and have no clue which Class you should pick, you would go for the Warrior, cause you know
they are meant to deal ALOT of damage, so you are kinda in the safe side. But in Dragonraja you are kinda f*** when you go with this class as a newcomer.
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Re: Buff Warrior

Postby täisdibla » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:26 am

Shark, I do 3500 with Z on people with max AC and SFD, or even less. That is using G21,5 force! That's why I said 4,5k for 200TT as I have 160 TT. Go check it for yourself. Jesus christ.

Also, desire doesn't work with max health, simplestupid. Archer/thief without max health = dead on next attack. :lol:


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