character changing ideas

[Olon]

Yeah, the slow penalty should be linear, so low lvl shields have really low penalty and high lvl shields kinda high, but still not too high. But again, thieves are not the ones to be punished for wearing shields.

[grofire]

@grofire, u hv no idea how strong a mage realy is, at higher lvl's the only down side char to mage is priest cuz they can tank spells the easyest and can kill mage quit easy.

i know alot more about wiz then u. and without a shild a wiz worth shit till d4, and in d5-d4 its pretty much the same as all ather classes.

a wiz is the class that dies faster then all (up too d3) evan with a shild, is ther anyone that not agreening with that saying ? take out the shild and u have a class that can't hold shit, he will jump into battel and die befor he evan make a singel shot.

Yeah, the slow penalty should be linear, so low lvl shields have really low penalty and high lvl shields kinda high, but still not too high. But again, thieves are not the ones to be punished for wearing shields.

thief after the priest are the must overpowerd. u have a tank in d1+ that do dmg in d1 as worear in d3, in high lvls its little better but still thief his the class that get to the higher lvl the festst and stay strong alot more then all the rest of the classes.

[Tensu]

@grofire, u hv no idea how strong a mage realy is, at higher lvl's the only down side char to mage is priest cuz they can tank spells the easyest and can kill mage quit easy.

i know alot more about wiz then u. and without a shild a wiz worth shit till d4, and in d5-d4 its pretty much the same as all ather classes.

a wiz is the class that dies faster then all (up too d3) evan with a shild, is ther anyone that not agreening with that saying ? take out the shild and u have a class that can't hold shit, he will jump into battel and die befor he evan make a singel shot.

wiz with shield has around 190 ac + ds (60% extra defence) --> thiefs and archer hit around 3k with full force and max tt. try hitting 2 full ex on a char that moves faster then a d3 thief...

wiz without shield has around 160 ac + ds --> thiefs and archers hit a lil over 4k with full force and max tt and still it isnt easy to land 2 full ex on a char that moves faster then a d3 thief

[grofire]

wiz with shield has around 190 ac + ds (60% extra defence) --> thiefs and archer hit around 3k with full force and max tt. try hitting 2 full ex on a char that moves faster then a d3 thief...

wiz without shield has around 160 ac + ds --> thiefs and archers hit a lil over 4k with full force and max tt and still it isnt easy to land 2 full ex on a char that moves faster then a d3 thief

whan a wiz have 190 ac ??? tell that ! its easy to say things that are only at the last stage of the game.
in the same idea of u priest can do 260 ac, archer 240 ac, thief 250 ac, worear 250 ac.
dos it metter whan thay ritch to this ac ? due to what u say ppl think a wiz d1 can ritch 190, witch isn't posibel to any d3 wiz, and it might be reach ther is he will give his speed (movp) and his firepower (mv rares)

[Tensu]

190 ac is without ac candles so u can take about 30 ac of all the other classes ac. getting 190 ac on a wiz isnt hard at all. it's just getting g20 ac (g4 symbole , g8 ac hat + 2 ac sc)

[grofire]

190 ac is without ac candles so u can take about 30 ac of all the other classes ac. getting 190 ac on a wiz isnt hard at all. it's just getting g20 ac (g4 symbole , g8 ac hat + 2 ac sc)

lol not hard at all, all the time i played i never got a lg, and u say like its easy np.
evan if i go with ur idea, ok u want to get g20 ac, what about mv ? what about br ? what about counter ?
ok u want to lose all ur fire power and get the ac, i guess u want to get the last items to get 2-6 ac so u mean u need to get all the points on int ws and con,so u will be in the best 59 shoe ?
so u get a wiz with 190 ac +60% magic(if u will never missed spell it) that can't kill anything, and run faster only from worears and that not sure.
well done u distroy that class........
if u play this class good u know u will get that much ac only and only in d4+

[Tensu]

190 ac is without ac candles so u can take about 30 ac of all the other classes ac. getting 190 ac on a wiz isnt hard at all. it's just getting g20 ac (g4 symbole , g8 ac hat + 2 ac sc)

lol not hard at all, all the time i played i never got a lg, and u say like its easy np.
evan if i go with ur idea, ok u want to get g20 ac, what about mv ? what about br ? what about counter ?
ok u want to lose all ur fire power and get the ac, i guess u want to get the last items to get 2-6 ac so u mean u need to get all the points on int ws and con,so u will be in the best 59 shoe ?
so u get a wiz with 190 ac +60% magic(if u will never missed spell it) that can't kill anything, and run faster only from worears and that not sure.
well done u distroy that class........
if u play this class good u know u will get that much ac only and only in d4+

i only used 3 spots in inventory of wearing, so there's still neck item left (defence cape of 20 defence or neck item with half cape effect?) and make mv and br for the 3 other spots and u're gona be just fine. i dont see why u think counter is a must, if u aim a spell right, all classes can die.
as for the movp part, i always put enough movp so i dont get why u brought this into this...

[ArabianArrow]

i know alot more about wiz then u. and without a shild a wiz worth shit till d4, and in d5-d4 its pretty much the same as all ather classes.

a wiz is the class that dies faster then all (up too d3) evan with a shild, is ther anyone that not agreening with that saying ? take out the shild and u have a class that can't hold shit, he will jump into battel and die befor he evan make a singel shot.

A class is only as good as the person playing it. Without a shield wizard is NOT worth shit till D4. Obviously you think it is because personal experience. That's basically what everyone's been trying to tell you ever since you started playing DR. Your 'worth shit' (taken out of your 84-word dictionary) on any class, regardless of their level or tactic.

A wizard dies faster than archer up to D3? Even with shield? Go play an archer.. you'll die from collateral hits .

thief after the priest are the must overpowerd. u have a tank in d1+ that do dmg in d1 as worear in d3, in high lvls its little better but still thief his the class that get to the higher lvl the festst and stay strong alot more then all the rest of the classes.

A warrior, priest and mage can easily kill a thief. Like I said, it all depends on the payer. You obviously are a bad one, therefore your opinions on topics like this are as useful as Branco's.

(I'm only being harsh because the "i know alot more about wiz then u" comment towards Tensu)

[Noeyesee]

In the end arab you are wrong and grofire is right. Mage need to stack alot of AC if they want to survive multi pking. If you simply take out the shield and don't give them any ac, it's not gonna kill anything. Archer are going to hit too hard with anything, thief will 1 ex it and warrior will pierce them in 2 hit.

@ tensu: the commentary were you said "with good hit you can kill anyone " if of course totally wrong. No mage could kill nshady when i played it. Not meketref, not rogerio. Even if you get a 12 hit. 200ac, cape, g8 eva, g8 resist lighting g8 resist blaze is unkillable for a mage.

Mage should take their shield out to use legendary staff vs priest and defense builded warrior. They can't on any other duel. 1 blue and you die without a shield. A blued mage is a dead mage.

[Tensu]

@ tensu: the commentary were you said "with good hit you can kill anyone " if of course totally wrong. No mage could kill nshady when i played it. Not meketref, not rogerio. Even if you get a 12 hit. 200ac, cape, g8 eva, g8 resist lighting g8 resist blaze is unkillable for a mage.

i hv to admit u're right about priests cant always be killed by mage. that's also why i put priest being the only difficult enemy of a wiz in another post

and for blue, i just get speed pots