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Re: event

Postby GMTempest » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:25 am

ExtraOrdinary wrote:btw tempest, you forgot about an event made for "Snow War" characters...


Never said I was going to make one. There's no reason to make events for secondary characters which are capped, priority is events that everyone can participate with their mains and not for "false" characters nor force people to make one to participate.
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Re: event

Postby ExtraOrdinary » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:39 am

also you force priest to only use 1 spell to attack = Life Drain....
Make unable to buff other players then, otherwise gonna be extremly unfair

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Re: event

Postby GMTempest » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:10 pm

ExtraOrdinary wrote:also you force priest to only use 1 spell to attack = Life Drain....
Make unable to buff other players then, otherwise gonna be extremly unfair


The reason blind and divine curse is banned is for the following reasons:

1. To encourage a fair skilled battle and not a battle of the curses
2. To not have team composition made up around curses, where each team will bring curse rares and have curse classes
3. To not put all thief/archer/warrior teams at a disadvantage against priests/mages
4. When there is only 1 thief/archer/warrior left in a fight against a team with atleast 1 priest/mage, it prevents them from being permanently cursed


Lastly, what do you mean by make unable to buff other players?
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Re: event

Postby pepex » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:29 pm

GMTempest wrote:
ExtraOrdinary wrote:also you force priest to only use 1 spell to attack = Life Drain....
Make unable to buff other players then, otherwise gonna be extremly unfair


The reason blind and divine curse is banned is for the following reasons:

1. To encourage a fair skilled battle and not a battle of the curses
2. To not have team composition made up around curses, where each team will bring curse rares and have curse classes
3. To not put all thief/archer/warrior teams at a disadvantage against priests/mages
4. When there is only 1 thief/archer/warrior left in a fight against a team with atleast 1 priest/mage, it prevents them from being permanently cursed


Lastly, what do you mean by make unable to buff other players?


i guess he is refering to that a team with a priest/wiz will have and advantage over those teams who dont becouse that team will have pray/sfd/etc..

GMTempest wrote:Never said I was going to make one. There's no reason to make events for secondary characters which are capped, priority is events that everyone can participate with their mains and not for "false" characters nor force people to make one to participate


correct me if i am wrong but people dont start being d2 let low/mid players have some fun too, or you are refering to snow characters powered up by high lv ones with uber rares? in wich case that can be easily solved by making characters have a rare cap say:
lv 1 to 20: can wear only g2 or below
lv 21 to 41:can wear only g3 or below
lv 51 to 61:can wear only g4 or below

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Re: event

Postby ExtraOrdinary » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:41 pm

At the last servers made by GMSpherix (Robert)/GMThralas(Joerie)/GMFinito(Charles) they mannaged PK events where wasnt allowed to Buff other players (zerk-pro-sfd) being the fair way to play. Since you dont allow a priest class to play curse spells to protect theirself so you making an event where a Priest will be a punchbag trying to survive being pepsied (unable to cast any spell) and raped by all opposite team because everyone will aim on Priest first.
I seriously stend we needing a PK event, and I do appreciate you preparing it. I just dont agree on how teams are made, best thing is to make a CAP level team like all players dont have to ++ more than 400 levels as an example so you make a mix between all Dual (1,2,3,4 even crossing classs) so everyone can AIM to get the max prize of 3k RE.
I also think there should be some item prizes as the Old DR-int team did give , could be double g2 effect DS Rings or Crest of Star or some items that could be discuss and motivate everyone to play for.
Those are just my ideas, if you force to make mixed teams between high and low levels everyone could aim to get the big prizes and get more fun and participation. And i want add something that want to repeat.. you not going to make snow war event....its the most funniest PK and there are alot of players under lvl 60 that would like to participate of this event but the "under 100 " doesnt fit for them.

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Re: event

Postby ExtraOrdinary » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:44 pm

Pepex, if a lvl 60 char got the stats to wear mega uber rares from a high lvl char its because his stats sucks, at lvl 60 you need think on making Good rares of YOUR lvl if you really want to survive.

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Re: event

Postby GMTempest » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:59 pm

ExtraOrdinary wrote:At the last servers made by GMSpherix (Robert)/GMThralas(Joerie)/GMFinito(Charles) they mannaged PK events where wasnt allowed to Buff other players (zerk-pro-sfd) being the fair way to play. Since you dont allow a priest class to play curse spells to protect theirself so you making an event where a Priest will be a punchbag trying to survive being pepsied (unable to cast any spell) and raped by all opposite team because everyone will aim on Priest first.
I seriously stend we needing a PK event, and I do appreciate you preparing it. I just dont agree on how teams are made, best thing is to make a CAP level team like all players dont have to ++ more than 400 levels as an example so you make a mix between all Dual (1,2,3,4 even crossing classs) so everyone can AIM to get the max prize of 3k RE.
I also think there should be some item prizes as the Old DR-int team did give , could be double g2 effect DS Rings or Crest of Star or some items that could be discuss and motivate everyone to play for.
Those are just my ideas, if you force to make mixed teams between high and low levels everyone could aim to get the big prizes and get more fun and participation. And i want add something that want to repeat.. you not going to make snow war event....its the most funniest PK and there are alot of players under lvl 60 that would like to participate of this event but the "under 100 " doesnt fit for them.


We did do a level cap before but teams were having trouble creating the teams for the right cap. This time, the cap is still there but in the form of level ranges. Based on last tournament and the LMS events, priests were still very strong despite not being able to curse. Last man standing had the top 3 winners dominated by priests. But despite that, I do not believe that not allowing others to be buffed will counteract priests not be able to curse, killing a good priest is nearly impossible without buffs.

The best solution would probably revolve around changing pepsi for the tournament as most teams will most likely have a constant pepsier.

Lastly, low levels can still join, there is still 2 weeks + a double exp event this weekend. They still have a decent amount of time to get to an appropriate low level range.
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Re: event

Postby ExtraOrdinary » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:26 pm

when you say "last LMS events" there people had multiple g9 and double g5 rares and max tactics?


and the fun is on snow war chars, not on under lv. 99 characters where wizards are overpowered.

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Re: event

Postby GMTempest » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:36 pm

ExtraOrdinary wrote:when you say "last LMS events" there people had multiple g9 and double g5 rares and max tactics?


and the fun is on snow war chars, not on under lv. 99 characters where wizards are overpowered.


I don't know what rares people had, but regardless every character has relative difficulty in making rares. Perhaps the winner had those rares, but it doesn't mean they were the only ones.

There's also level 1-60 lower bracket. Not every character under 99.
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Re: event

Postby ExtraOrdinary » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:00 pm

GMTempest wrote:We did do a level cap before but teams were having trouble creating the teams for the right cap. This time, the cap is still there but in the form of level ranges. Based on last tournament and the LMS events, priests were still very strong despite not being able to curse. Last man standing had the top 3 winners dominated by priests. But despite that, I do not believe that not allowing others to be buffed will counteract priests not be able to curse, killing a good priest is nearly impossible without buffs.


I still thinking about is better to have lvl cap teams to force teams to integrate dual cc, d1 n d2. And give them a chance to get a great prize also.. at this way we gonna have more teams, cant see a difficult on it.
Theres allowed to use POWER UP and STROKE Candles, even rare foods so i do believe killing that thief/archers/warriors got enuff power to kill a priest without get buff.

About spells you can tell me that isnt allowed to use Stun/Snag because it dont let the opponent play in fair circunstance, but Divine curse and blindess on priest give you the chance to survive and protect against pepsiers and people that use slow on you, those are pure tactics spells.
You should play a priest and stand against pepsier and 3 players hitting you without have any chance to counterattack that skill, and your unique spell available to play (waiting til your buffs gone) will have LifeDrain long casting spell being casting-cutted all the time so you rarely will cast more than 6 life drain in 10 minutes.


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