Enable PK In ALL quests

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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Telegram » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:18 pm

Toni wrote:Brandon runs for president srsly, Haha it's exactly like he said, even if you guys reach d4 (which you wont, since we are taking over BM every time, maybe then you will come back here and ask for it to be pk free once again) we will own you over and over again like we do right now, it's all about skillz brah! How else you explain that 6-7 people that we are win every PK?


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How come you can say 6-7 people who win every PK??
Let take last Big Maze(BM) quest(5/3/2011) as a example!

ZT side have:
Dual 4: Fayen, Sorts, Within16letters
Dual 3: AngelsLove, Torment, Shayne, Sweats, Klei, Karvinen, Limbo, Cell (Sometimes have Nokia and Olon)
Dual 2: Utopia
Dual 1:(Sometimes have DarkLight and Jokemaker)

Also, ZT side have partner guild:
Dual 3: friday, FirstLady, (Sometimes have Westly)
Dual 2: Langie
Dual 1: BlackHand

Non-guild ZT helper: Dual 2 : SimpleStupid

The above list shows that ZT side have around 15-20 players who were mainly dual 3 and 4!
How come Fayen can said that 6-7 people can win every PK??? I don't understand......
I think ZT people may argue that some characters were controlled or logon by same owner, e.g: Cell=Torment=Paul
However, for the other side(main from Yllse and ZYS) also have many characters are controlled by same owner!
Therefore, this is not the main point because the same situation also occur in both ZT and other side!

In other post, ZT people Cell said that the ratio of ZT side : other side about 1:4 in many time
In fact, Cell have some wrong calculation!!
If the ratio= 1:4, then other side need to have around 70-80 players to join? As total(all side players) need to have more than 100 players!
I don't see any maze quest have this number of players(>100) to join even the event which was Big Maze Re-opened!

Also, other side(mainly from ZYS and Yllse) had many players afked during whole BM quest!!
Also, many players were controlled by same owner(same as ZT)
I believe that the active players(who will fight with ZT side) are only about 20-30 players!
In last BM, We all know other side(non-ZT side) only have 2 dual 4 who are Liz and Elmaa!!

Then, 15-20 (ZT side)vs 20-30(other side)
Also, ZT side have more higher level and dual class players(this is a fact)
Then ZT said they win every PK with 6-7 peoples or ZT:other = 1:4 or they win because they are more skillful!!
Based on the above figure and analysis, I think you all can think and judge by you own!!
I think many people will also think that ZT side have higher change to win due to not big different number of active players and higher dual class and level!
Howver, Not becasue of ZT players are more Skillful or some 6-7 ppl can win all PK or 1:4 ratio!

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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby muking » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:26 pm

The moral of the story.. Zero Tolerance still wins

Zero Tolerance wins WARs that we join, Zero Tolerance wins QUESTS that we join, Zero Tolerance wins everything that we join.

Maybe if your nation/guilds worked together, you might have a chance to beat us.

Thanks,
Minipp :shock:


This may be a good suggestion and idea to our guild to consider!
That's good to see that you and Karvinen transfer to vys and join ZT!!
Also, being Yllse Betrayal during Undead Quest (the time )when ZT become more and more stronger
Anyway, Enjoy your game with ZT!!!
I think you will happy to play with ZT because ZT is more suitable for you!
Enjoy^^
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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Cell » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:29 pm

Lmfao the most funny thing IS that i controll like 3-4 players a quest and you mentioned two of my characters there and a character that doesnt play with us ie darklight.

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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Cell » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:34 pm

Afaik from ZT theres atleast 2-3 players controlling more than 1 character in quest, So it does kinda narrow it down from your "15" to like 7-10 actual players playing.

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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Eleval » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:59 pm

Minipp wrote:The moral of the story.. Zero Tolerance still wins

Zero Tolerance wins WARs that we join, Zero Tolerance wins QUESTS that we join, Zero Tolerance wins everything that we join.

Maybe if your nation/guilds worked together, you might have a chance to beat us.

Thanks,
Minipp :shock:

Ya, in war yesteday, when was fair (2 D3(priest, thief), 1 D4 (thief) vs 1 D4 (priest), 1 D3 (wiz), 3 D2 (2 Thief and 1 Archer)) you just got pwnd hard =/
Then, you had to call all your ZT friends which brought another D4 and some D3 (while we were still the 5 same) to finally beat us. Imagine if we all join, still gonna win? ;o
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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Minipp » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:01 pm

What I don't understand is, all your guildies do not join Dungeon quest even to get dual fame when PK is turned ON. You complain that Zero Tolerance is higher dual class, but the opportunity for you to be the same dual class is there. Dual fame is there for you to get (even as ghost) Why not take advantage of not doing the work and just get the dual fame????

If you take a look at the top 10 list.. 6 out of 10 players are from Yllse/Zypern (Your side during PK).

My analysis or judgement, is you're trying to make excuses as to why you're losing everything to ZT.

The opportunities are there for you to become stronger but you're taking them. What's wrong with you people? How many priests do you have compared to ZT? Do these priests use ress pots? Do these priests support you when fighting (very important)? Teamwork!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop complaining and start PLAYING!

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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby täisdibla » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:03 pm

Eleval wrote:Ya, in war yesteday, when was fair (2 D3(priest, thief), 1 D4 (thief) vs 1 D4 (priest), 1 D3 (wiz), 3 D2 (2 Thief and 1 Archer)) you just got pwnd hard =/
Then, you had to call all your ZT friends which brought another D4 and some D3 (while we were still the 5 same) to finally beat us. Imagine if we all join, still gonna win? ;o


Good luck getting everyone to join though :lol: :lol:

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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Minipp » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:14 pm

Eleval wrote:
Minipp wrote:The moral of the story.. Zero Tolerance still wins

Zero Tolerance wins WARs that we join, Zero Tolerance wins QUESTS that we join, Zero Tolerance wins everything that we join.

Maybe if your nation/guilds worked together, you might have a chance to beat us.

Thanks,
Minipp :shock:

Ya, in war yesteday, when was fair (2 D3(priest, thief), 1 D4 (thief) vs 1 D4 (priest), 1 D3 (wiz), 3 D2 (2 Thief and 1 Archer)) you just got pwnd hard =/
Then, you had to call all your ZT friends which brought another D4 and some D3 (while we were still the 5 same) to finally beat us. Imagine if we all join, still gonna win? ;o


I'm not going to complain about lag too much, but I can guarantee this had a major part in your success at killing me. The lag was horrible for me.. getting spikes up to 1600ms but BBKill played very well, and got me a couple times. And I applaud him for playing very well and aiming at the right time (when my SFD was off) Very nice! (Y)

The fact, that you labeled 5 vs 3... is a pretty good sign that we didn't get 'pwned'... Fayen ended up leaving to head to the next stone. So that left myself and Karvinen. Karvinen ended up leaving to get a pike, and I ended up heading to the next stone to WIN war. So you saying that we got 'pwnd hard'.. is a very exagerrated statement. The funny part is you say you only had 5 players defending???? I am pretty sure I seen more than 5 players defending...

Our attack team was... Klei, Karvinen, Fayen, Torment.. then finally Within16letters showed up for the last couple stones.

The FACT here is, you LOST war... Imagine if you all join, would you still win? Who knows? You all don't join... so we can never find that out. The strategy in war is very different than in a dungeon quest. You must have a defense and you must have an attack team. Instead, you just had a full on defense team which won't get you anywhere... as you can see, you still lost. As I said, you don't have any teamwork.

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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Minipp » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:18 pm

Eleval wrote:Ya, in war yesteday, when was fair (2 D3(priest, thief), 1 D4 (thief) vs 1 D4 (priest), 1 D3 (wiz), 3 D2 (2 Thief and 1 Archer)) you just got pwnd hard =/
Then, you had to call all your ZT friends which brought another D4 and some D3 (while we were still the 5 same) to finally beat us. Imagine if we all join, still gonna win? ;o


But let me answer your question seriously.

No, you will not win, due to the fact, you will just buff your 'defense'.. This still leaves no offense to go against our defense. So results will be the same, but take a bit longer.

Thanks,
Minipp :shock:
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Re: Enable PK In ALL quests

Postby Eleval » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:24 pm

Minipp wrote:
Eleval wrote:Ya, in war yesteday, when was fair (2 D3(priest, thief), 1 D4 (thief) vs 1 D4 (priest), 1 D3 (wiz), 3 D2 (2 Thief and 1 Archer)) you just got pwnd hard =/
Then, you had to call all your ZT friends which brought another D4 and some D3 (while we were still the 5 same) to finally beat us. Imagine if we all join, still gonna win? ;o


But let me answer your question seriously.

No, you will not win, due to the fact, you will just buff your 'defense'.. This still leaves no offense to go against our defense. So results will be the same, but take a bit longer.

Thanks,
Minipp :shock:

Let's just see a war when all Zypern can join anyways ;o
As for "we never join", unlike most of you in ZT, us in Zypern have a life, we don't spend all our time on DR ;o
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