Boredom is setting in

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Jarlaxle
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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby Jarlaxle » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:42 am

Kamos wrote:
AceD wrote:You should put the word proof on macro, you use it to worm out of everything that is hard to prove yet known to people

Oh so as long as enough people claim "to know" what's going on, no proof is necessary? Not the way it works.

As for the warning. I admit that the warning directly (doesn't really matter if it was 20min or 1hour) after OmegaSage was killed is a little icky/dodgy. But I also got a feeling you and ArabianArrow are deliberately trying to create nasty situations which either makes the server unpleasant for other people or when the GMs take action you immediately cry "corruption". I can't prove it though, it's just a feeling.

I do agree on the mules not being transferred as sloppy. I wouldn't see it directly as an action against ZT cause a lot of tickets haven't been answered lately.


That's exactly what he's doing and it's painfully obvious to anyone with a half of a brain. He probably goes out of his way seeking gm's characters that he some how knows about to pk and try to harass in order to try to get a claim of corruption.

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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby AceD » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:51 pm

Jarlaxle wrote:
Kamos wrote:
AceD wrote:You should put the word proof on macro, you use it to worm out of everything that is hard to prove yet known to people

Oh so as long as enough people claim "to know" what's going on, no proof is necessary? Not the way it works.

As for the warning. I admit that the warning directly (doesn't really matter if it was 20min or 1hour) after OmegaSage was killed is a little icky/dodgy. But I also got a feeling you and ArabianArrow are deliberately trying to create nasty situations which either makes the server unpleasant for other people or when the GMs take action you immediately cry "corruption". I can't prove it though, it's just a feeling.

I do agree on the mules not being transferred as sloppy. I wouldn't see it directly as an action against ZT cause a lot of tickets haven't been answered lately.


That's exactly what he's doing and it's painfully obvious to anyone with a half of a brain. He probably goes out of his way seeking gm's characters that he some how knows about to pk and try to harass in order to try to get a claim of corruption.
Seek out? VD is the only place worth going...not hard to "seek out".
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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby Dark_Assassin » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:24 pm

Seeing as you pk at WG and Lethes also (Y)
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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby GMSignBreaker » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:30 pm

ArabianArrow wrote:GMSB said all that was needed was 2 ss.

"One screenshot saying u give up
and another showing htem attacking/killing you"

How long does it take to discuss an issue when all the required information is already served to you? You need to examine the screenshot to see if it's fake or real?


You would've gotten a proper reason for why it takes a while to examine the records if you haven't been such an ass. I even told you to read GMTempest's clarification of harassment rules. To clear things up to other people, we have to examine whether or not the attack was provoked or not. I'll quote GMTempest directly from the thread he made clarifying harassment rules:

This means you have to at least put some effort into avoiding the PKer. This means you simply do not go back to a location knowing the harasser is there and knowing that he will attack you, it will not count towards harassment.


You are required to notify the harasser that you do not wish to be harassed anymore and that you will report him if his actions does not cease. In other words you cannot simply report someone for harassment if you do not give them a chance to stop.


Your hands must be clean. Example being, if you instigated the harasser for his actions such as through verbal insults or killing the harasser first, we will not intervene until you at least apologize for your actions and ask the harasser to stop.


Source: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4172

1. We have to confirm that you didn't go back there on purpose.

2. We have to confirm if you gave them a chance to stop. (you cleared this one, just pointing it out)

3. We need to confirm you didn't instigate things first.

Not as clear and cut is it? I told you to send in the report with those two screenshots, I did NOT say those two screenshots will automatically make it a harassment case. You might want to clear out your ears of "I want to find a way to accuse the GMs of corruption and ineptitude" wax when you listen to my directions, because I clearly did not say sending in those two screenshots will automatically make it a harassment case. It took time because whenever I logged on, the person that harassed you wasn't on.

I dropped the case because it was obvious you were making this report not because you were genuinely "harassed," but because you wanted to find a way to accuse us of corruption and ineptitude.

If the GM team reasonably believes we are being used as a political tool, we will not entertain any more reports from such player. Any ambiguity will be determined by the GM team to ensure harassment is not taking place and the GM team is not being used as a political tool.


Under DRG in-game rules.

And yes I am still on my trip, just having a little break :D

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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby AceD » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:34 pm

Dark_Assassin wrote:Seeing as you pk at WG and Lethes also (Y)
i lvl lethe sometimes '-_-
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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby ArabianArrow » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:30 pm

GMSignBreaker wrote:I dropped the case because it was obvious you were making this report not because you were genuinely "harassed," but because you wanted to find a way to accuse us of corruption and ineptitude.


Yet another weak assumption by sb to excuse himself from his GM duty. I've lost track counting. :W:

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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby Karvinen » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:39 pm

ArabianArrow wrote:
GMSignBreaker wrote:I dropped the case because it was obvious you were making this report not because you were genuinely "harassed," but because you wanted to find a way to accuse us of corruption and ineptitude.


Yet another weak assumption by sb to excuse himself from his GM duty. I've lost track counting. :W:


Yet another attempt by ali to manipulate the people into thinking GMs are corrupt. I've lost track counting.

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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby Faith » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:57 am

:?

Gezzzz....

Typical DR shit...
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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby Minipp » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:07 pm

Faith wrote::?

Gezzzz....

Typical DR shit...


Yeah, pretty much. Same idiots (ALI & SHAYNE)..

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Re: Boredom is setting in

Postby LadyPhoenix » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:23 pm

There is no way to prove or disprove the words of a GM. Even if the GM is incorrect, the GM ("team") can just make a new rule to counter the problem. Evidence can be dismissed and not shown to the public in order to make the player seem incorrect. Even on previous servers, when everyone knew that there was corruption, GMs found some way to explain the abnormalities. The only way corruption was proved was by showing proof from the logs which was done from within the GM team.

You really can't argue against the ones who make the rules and hope to win if they don't want you to win.

GMSB: You are the classic private game server GM that relies on his own judgement rather than using standard protocol and procedures.
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