some vd timer bug

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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby GMSignBreaker » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:40 am

LadyPhoenix wrote:
GMSignBreaker wrote:Warning is used to make sure that the person knows he/she is doing something wrong.


So to be told what the rules are, we have to break the rules first.

Most other places make strict rules then give a punishment if the rules are broken on the first offence. I guess you need some kind of excuse to explain why nothing is being implemented/fixed :roll:


Think however you want to think. I gave you our policy concerning bug abuse, even told you the reasoning behind the way in which the rule was constructed. And I suppose nothing has been implemented/fixed. After all, DR is exactly the same as it was with previous servers, NR, and the old DRINT right? Let's lose our memory when we are irritated (Y)

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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby LadyPhoenix » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:58 am

And I gave you an argument as to why the way you construct it is not a good method. I've had players back me up yet you stay on your high chair and claim that you're way is the right way.

This aren't being done anymore by the GMs. you have admitted this yourself.
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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby GMSignPainter » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:17 am

There are many bugs in Dragon Raja.

Some bugs like Ice Death and such became part of GamePlay.

Some other bugs are not part of the GamePlay and it's not allowed at all to use those.

Most of the allowed bugs that became part of the GamePlay are well known by many players. Newcomers may know those bugs from older players.

If a player uses a bug thinking it's part of the GamePlay while it's not, he'll simply receive a warning where we will tell him this bug isn't allowed to be abused and we will work on fixing it. Now the person is warned that the bug isn't allowed and won't use it again. If he use it again, now that he's fully aware it's not allowed, he'll get banned.

Simply as that.

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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby LadyPhoenix » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:53 am

and if a player shares accounts? you warned the "player", not the "character" so if another player does the bug on the same character it's legal? What if 1 person finds out about this bug then shares it with his friends. 1 of those players got warned, the others have not so they can keep on abusing the bug one at a time?
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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby GMSignPainter » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:56 am

As said in the rules, if someone shares his account and the person using his account get in trouble with the owner's char, it's the problem of the owner, you have to be careful with who you share your account.
As for sharing the bug, yes we will warn each person one time or warn everyone with an announcement.

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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby LadyPhoenix » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:11 am

You're willing to waste time warning each player individually OR only warn those players who are online at the time of the announcement. You're NOT willing to make it easy for players by conveniently putting the warning in a easy to find place which takes less effort than spamming in game messages.

If you have that much free time, then I'm sure more players rather see you attending to other duties. Personally, I fail to see your logic. It's your server though and I can't win an argument where you can just make up a rule to prove me wrong at any moment.
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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby Noeyesee » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:14 am

LP, gm can't afford telling these ''bug'' to everyone, cause they won't be able to deal with it after.
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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby GMSignPainter » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:15 am

LadyPhoenix wrote:You're willing to waste time warning each player individually OR only warn those players who are online at the time of the announcement. You're NOT willing to make it easy for players by conveniently putting the warning in a easy to find place which takes less effort than spamming in game messages.

If you have that much free time, then I'm sure more players rather see you attending to other duties. Personally, I fail to see your logic. It's your server though and I can't win an argument where you can just make up a rule to prove me wrong at any moment.


Was talking about forum announcement.
Like I did for job items in shops.
Like I did for Rare making.
etc...

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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby Karvinen » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:53 am

oh shit signpainter made an appearance!

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Re: some vd timer bug

Postby GMSignBreaker » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:36 am

LadyPhoenix wrote:And I gave you an argument as to why the way you construct it is not a good method. I've had players back me up yet you stay on your high chair and claim that you're way is the right way.

This aren't being done anymore by the GMs. you have admitted this yourself.


When did I say things aren't being done? Things are being done, even if it's not right in your face. The only person making a big deal out of this is you, I don't see anyone else complaining as badly as you are. Why? Because it's not a big deal. You're making a mountain out of an anthole. I have already addressed your argument, it was you who simply decided not to address each points that I have addressed. And like I said, keep giving us more examples to "argue" that how we are doing is wrong. I can give you a hundred "examples" to nitpick every single rule that I have written myself. I have no reason to stay on this supposed high chair to say you're wrong and I'm right. This is our policy and it won't be changed just because one player is making a huge deal out of it. We aren't going to change this and that's that. Nothing you say will change our policy. The only thing that will change our policy is if there are problems we need to address that requires us to list all the little bugs. As I have constantly told you, please distinguish between unknown bugs, future bugs, large bugs, small bugs, and known bugs. The bug abuse section was designed to cover future, unknown, and large bugs. Small and known bugs (the ones you are concerned about) are not a big deal and can be dealt with on an individual basis.


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