requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby Xendro » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:00 pm

You could also just remove the tt cap per level and just make the party exp drop when your tt reaches a certain amount over your level. For example at lvl 110 and 110tt you receive 100% party exp, at lvl 110 and 130tt you receive 80% of party exp, at level 110 and 150tt you only receive 60% of party exp.
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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby HolyHell » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:05 pm

ive tried vd 2 with 13x-15x magery and its pretty much a waste of time
im all for the leechable tt cap but dont want the tt cap for ur own work
lvl100 should still be able to get max tt IF they work for it
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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby grofire » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:21 pm

HolyHell wrote:ive tried vd 2 with 13x-15x magery and its pretty much a waste of time
im all for the leechable tt cap but dont want the tt cap for ur own work
lvl100 should still be able to get max tt IF they work for it


no that shouldn't be abel, since thet will not fix anything, the truble is in the way u said was the monsters in vd2...... so thay need to be modified, lower hp or higher wp or w/e......

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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby HolyHell » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:44 pm

i dont see what needs to be fixed, i dont see the problem with lvl100s getting tt, most of the time u gotta solo and its boring

i would rather remove the tt cap per lvl and keep the leechable tt cap

how will thief archer and wizard kill much with such low tt not saying it cant be done but it will be much harder for them
and much easier for priest and lil less easier for warrior
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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby grofire » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:11 pm

the problom is the fact that ppl stay in vd or db all the game witch create conflects (not alot of place to lvl)
secend problom, with the way it was till now u could just remove vd 2 and higher places, witch make the game very small and annying.....
problom 3, ppl just stay on lvl 100 - 107 and never get to 150, coz it dosn't metter. ( in all the years i played dr i seen only 1 d5 in low rate, and somthing like 10-15 150 lvl chars) that not normal, ther is no reason to get higher then 140, and ppl just prefer to pk or what ever, coz ther is no gain in lvl 150.....

for this resons i think solo should have a cap too not only party.
and the monsters should be modifed so it will be good to lvl on them.
and 1 of the must importent make priest dipendbale on tt and rare ( i mean the ld will make dmg in a propertion to his tt and rare).
this way i think the pk and the lvl system will be perfect

this metter should be handel with care.

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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby HolyHell » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:09 am

lol if the game is annoying cause ur getting tt at 100-107 then thats ur own fault for staying those lvls
i like having the option, it also changes things up, if theres a cap then u will already know about how strong each character coming at u is
i like running into random thief/archer some cc do only 2k but some do 4k
or some warriors are getting tt at 100-107 while some hit d3 then get it
it changes things up and its 1 of the things i liked most about dr

why do u want ld changed? to make it stronger or weaker?
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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby Elmy » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:36 am

The only thing that really needs to be changed is the EXP output of vd2+ (and perhaps the outdoor monsters as well, cyclops etc). But really, there really should be a reason to level up. (And I actually hope that it's not as Proacker said, but that it's both a party leech max and a level max). It's so unintuitive and silly to actually stay at a lower level on purpose. It makes no sense at all, and it makes most people almost never see endgame content, ever.

I also completely do not understand the whole argument behind 'how will TT classes kill people'.

The only difference with what they are putting forth here is that you will actually be leveling your character's level along with your TT, instead of only your TT. Now not only priests will be dualing before everyone else. (which will also help in the balance, since the reason priest are so strong is because they get higher level / dual than everyone else...)

If you're biggest beef is that it sucks to go to VD2 + with less than 150 TT (which btw has nothing to do with your TT, VD2 just sucks balls), they can fix that, easily. And I can't believe that you guys would assume that they couldn't / wouldn't.

There is such a thing as not liking change. But you shouldn't throw out the fact that, literally, anything is possible if they wish to implement it. This includes changing the TT system, and making it work properly. The GM's aren't stupid people, and the fact that you're underestimating them to this point is a bit of a shock. They are players too, they know what's going on. They understand the game and what will effect it.
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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby Rooftrellen » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:43 am

Want to clarify something here. VD2 and VD3 can be very good TTs (maybe not VD2 if you're a mage due to such crappy hitboxes), much better than VD1, BUT you have to have enough TTs/dmg output to kill them fast enough to see a dramatic improvement from VD1, the only reason VD1 is soo good is because people get 140+ TTs and clear the pits so easily. So yes it does have to do with your TTs, I've done it with a mage and thief, so I do know what I'm talking about believe it or not. If you want people to level all you have to do is make it more worth while to go to VD2/3, probably the easiest way to do that would be to decrease the amount of hp the mobs have in there so it doesn't require an insane amount of damage to kill them quickly/efficiently. If you do that then people would actually level and progress through VD like they are suppose to.

All in all I think it should be YOUR choice as the PLAYER to decide how you want to play/level your character. Do I want to get high TTs before I level up so I can dominate in PK and make it easier to level when I do decide to OR do I want to level and get the highest DC that I can as fast as I can and worry about TTs after that. You shouldn't force people to level, just give them incentive to level and they will, like making VD2/3 better overall. Just my opinion on the subject.

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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby masterYU » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:26 am

3wiz 1tank 2priest and thief/archer/priest still is to low dmg output for vd2/vd3 ?
1 wiz shouldnt be able to lvlel fast, gm's are making this to become more like party game, get 3 wiz and check it then.
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Re: requesting lvl 105+ guide/help

Postby Rooftrellen » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:24 am

Depends on their TT levels, wiz are generally going to suck for VD2 no matter how many you have, thief is blaster of choice there hands down. And a wiz is always going to level faster if VD is involved due to last blows.


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