Rare Gembox Boss Monster

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Gua
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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby Gua » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:17 pm

Dark_Assassin wrote:lol DRU had the same thing but with eyes instead of potbox, i had a single thief, i soloed that, in the time you said 5 archers did with full eqipement did, with g5 symbol, and DRU only had g4. infact i could even tank it with my theif


Not 5 archers, 1 archer as dual 5.... I could tank it with archer easily too. But nobody on this server going to have dual 5, full g10s, OPGs, max tactic, etc...

Tensu wrote:the spawn time is way to fast... should be 1hour every spawn in my opinion. if ppl were to get any unique rare items like this, they should work realy hard for it...


DR already has enough timed events with wars and dungeons and other timed spawn boss mobs. With this monster spawning all the time that means you don't have to log-on at a specific time. This also means that other people might be there so you have to PvP for the spot. PvE is not challenging in this game, PvP is what makes this game great. The point of the quick spawn and low drop rate is so that you can't just run in, quickly kill one, and get a gembox. With low drop rate you have to kill it 30-50 times to get one, enough time for other people to come and PvP with you to try and take the spawn from you.

masterYU wrote:better if boses spawn at random maps... mob guilds wont have that much power over them.


I dunno. The whole point is to have a place where people have a something to gain by PvPing. If the spawn place is random then you're really just playing hide-and-seek with the monsters, not PvPing that much. I'm not sure what you mean by mob guild, do you mean guilds with lots of players? This is an MMORPG, so you have to deal with groups of players. I'm sure the GMs will do their best to balance nation populations once the server goes live, but you're going to have to play with other people. If you want to solo this game then you're out of luck.

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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby Urruauk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:23 pm

Although that would be cool, I think it's a shit idea for this server..in a month or two after people start killing the monster, Adrenaline and the all the "fair playing people" that are in that guild, have like 16 different ones...And then they can just say, hey we found them...and then again GM's wont do anything because they can't!

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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby drakidia » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:40 pm

Urruauk wrote:Although that would be cool, I think it's a shit idea for this server..in a month or two after people start killing the monster, Adrenaline and the all the "fair playing people" that are in that guild, have like 16 different ones...And then they can just say, hey we found them...and then again GM's wont do anything because they can't!



You could always purchase one from another player.
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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby ArabianArrow » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:53 pm

Gua wrote:
Dark_Assassin wrote:lol DRU had the same thing but with eyes instead of potbox, i had a single thief, i soloed that, in the time you said 5 archers did with full eqipement did, with g5 symbol, and DRU only had g4. infact i could even tank it with my theif


Not 5 archers, 1 archer as dual 5.... I could tank it with archer easily too. But nobody on this server going to have dual 5, full g10s, OPGs, max tactic, etc...

Tensu wrote:the spawn time is way to fast... should be 1hour every spawn in my opinion. if ppl were to get any unique rare items like this, they should work realy hard for it...


DR already has enough timed events with wars and dungeons and other timed spawn boss mobs. With this monster spawning all the time that means you don't have to log-on at a specific time. This also means that other people might be there so you have to PvP for the spot. PvE is not challenging in this game, PvP is what makes this game great. The point of the quick spawn and low drop rate is so that you can't just run in, quickly kill one, and get a gembox. With low drop rate you have to kill it 30-50 times to get one, enough time for other people to come and PvP with you to try and take the spawn from you.

masterYU wrote:better if boses spawn at random maps... mob guilds wont have that much power over them.


I dunno. The whole point is to have a place where people have a something to gain by PvPing. If the spawn place is random then you're really just playing hide-and-seek with the monsters, not PvPing that much. I'm not sure what you mean by mob guild, do you mean guilds with lots of players? This is an MMORPG, so you have to deal with groups of players. I'm sure the GMs will do their best to balance nation populations once the server goes live, but you're going to have to play with other people. If you want to solo this game then you're out of luck.


I like this idea. Need GMs feedback.
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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby Gua » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:07 pm

Urruauk wrote:Although that would be cool, I think it's a shit idea for this server..in a month or two after people start killing the monster, Adrenaline and the all the "fair playing people" that are in that guild, have like 16 different ones...And then they can just say, hey we found them...and then again GM's wont do anything because they can't!


Even if that is true, keep in mind that a g3 gembox wouldn't be a whole lot better than a star crest since it has g2 hardest plus some endu and fire resist. I'm not sure how DR decides which rare effect to give an item when it drops, but if it is totally random then 16 gembox is enough to have more than 1 or 2 gembox with a useful g3 effect. Most will be either g1 or g2, or a not-that-great g3 effect. Just enough to add some incentive to PvP for the spot and hunt from some yourself, but not enough that it's makes them gamebreaking. Even if someone got extremely, extremely, extremely lucky and got 2 g3 force ones, or 2 g3 magic vigor, or something, it wouldn't be gamebreakingly better than have 2 star crests.

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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby Duran » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:31 am

G3 gembox PWNS starcrest hardcore. One saves a whole lot of stats.

Anyhow, even if it respawns every hour itll still be pk since its often enough. If it respawns every 2-3 min, it'll be pk but after a while the server will be over inflated with rare gemboxes hence why i disagree with such a fast ass spawn.
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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby KINGNEWBIE » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:38 am

Gua wrote:
masterYU wrote:better if boses spawn at random maps... mob guilds wont have that much power over them.


I dunno. The whole point is to have a place where people have a something to gain by PvPing. If the spawn place is random then you're really just playing hide-and-seek with the monsters, not PvPing that much. I'm not sure what you mean by mob guild, do you mean guilds with lots of players? This is an MMORPG, so you have to deal with groups of players. I'm sure the GMs will do their best to balance nation populations once the server goes live, but you're going to have to play with other people. If you want to solo this game then you're out of luck.



how about random re spawn within the same map?
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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby Tensu » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:41 am

Duran wrote:G3 gembox PWNS starcrest hardcore. One saves a whole lot of stats.

Anyhow, even if it respawns every hour itll still be pk since its often enough. If it respawns every 2-3 min, it'll be pk but after a while the server will be over inflated with rare gemboxes hence why i disagree with such a fast ass spawn.


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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby Gua » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:25 am

Duran wrote:G3 gembox PWNS starcrest hardcore. One saves a whole lot of stats.

Anyhow, even if it respawns every hour itll still be pk since its often enough. If it respawns every 2-3 min, it'll be pk but after a while the server will be over inflated with rare gemboxes hence why i disagree with such a fast ass spawn.


There are three kinds of gemboxes, +2, +5, and +10. A +2 Gembox with a good g3 rare effect would be better than starcrest, but not much. 10 stats only equal to 1 level.

Also, you underestimate how tough balroc wing is I think. With spawn at 2-3 minutes the amount of time it would take for a group of 5 dual 1 or dual 2 players to kill it would be maybe 10-15 minutes. With 2-3% drop rate it will take you 8-10 hours just to find one, and if anything that's too low of a drop rate. If you bring a huge group of people to kill it, like 20 people, then maybe you can kill it fast, but then you also have to split the gemboxes that drop between all those people.

Maybe increase the drop rate a little, maybe 7%, but make it only spawn for a couple of hours a day, 2-3. That way, it's not up for 24 hours a day. Maybe have it up for 2 hours with 2 minute respawns then down for 20 hours, so the time of day it is spawning rotates to accommodate people from all times zones. Even if people hunt it 100% of the time it is up, only 10-15 gemboxes will drop per month. Unless this server is going to be extremely small, that's nowhere near enough to flood the server.

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Re: Rare Gembox Boss Monster

Postby Gua » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:26 am

KINGNEWBIE wrote:
Gua wrote:
masterYU wrote:better if boses spawn at random maps... mob guilds wont have that much power over them.


I dunno. The whole point is to have a place where people have a something to gain by PvPing. If the spawn place is random then you're really just playing hide-and-seek with the monsters, not PvPing that much. I'm not sure what you mean by mob guild, do you mean guilds with lots of players? This is an MMORPG, so you have to deal with groups of players. I'm sure the GMs will do their best to balance nation populations once the server goes live, but you're going to have to play with other people. If you want to solo this game then you're out of luck.



how about random re spawn within the same map?


That could work.


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