Priests: Is anything other than Fallen a wasted choice?

[misterd]

Templars, there's a lot of them in game. Is it because a fully upgraded symbol gives a nice big fat ac bonus?

In my opinion, the other half of the Templar symbol is redundant as a 100% accuracy effect can be cast on the player. That leaves g7.3 blue AC as the only benefit. For the same reason, the Avenger symbol is equally flawed and offers g4 Speed as the only real benefit.

So it falls to a choice between Saint and Fallen. I think the Saint's 'Wise' effect is great, but there is little call for the Nature Vigor effect. This leaves Fallen as my preferred choice as both g4 Smart and g4 Speed are useful.

Or am I missing something?

[badboy605]

Fallen is good, stick to it.

[kador]

AC became one of the most valuable effect in this game now a days...
But if you feel like you can handle the damage, so you may go for any other Dual Class you wish.
Saint is very cool. Casting LD fastter than anyone else is useful...

If you wanna run fastter, Fallen is the choice over Avenger. But I like the name Avenger most

[Garlik]

fallen not bad,but this questions on forum happen when we dont have any shit to do in game

best class if u want to be like imortal,u know what class it is

[misterd]

AC became one of the most valuable effect in this game now a days...

I agree with the value of AC, but the Priest version of the symbol does not give the same overall benefit to a build because the Accurate is wasted. For any other class I accept it is crazy to NOT choose to dual with warrior because that Accurate also becomes usable.

A Fallen can make a g7 hardest item and be only 1 blue ac away from the effect granted by Templar symbol, and still gets maximum value out of their own symbol. Whatever rares a Templar adds does not replace the fact that one half their symbol is not contributing to their build.

Can any Templar out there offer a counter-argument?

There is another thread where some symbols from another server was translated: link

It does seem like there were more class-specific symbols in the past. In that post, Templar got AC/Satan which, if still granting over g7 ac, would obviously be better than Fallen. I get the impression that the Lord Knight warrior symbol effect was just cut/paste for all the other classes on this server without any consideration.

[kador]

Can any Templar out there offer a counter-argument?

I dont believe someone can offer a counter-argument if you are looking only into PvP sets.
I believe Templar is better for Tank (since you can easily find Smart Dagger/Knife/Soda) and people are so used to see Templar in-game that they are afraid of testing something else.
They know Templar will succeed.

[misterd]

Yes, one big benefit is the symbol will never lose dura

[BlackVampire]

my priest are fallen ~

by my point, Templar want full ac, was easy, only 1G8 ac ... but if want to get full smart, still need 2 peices of that...

Fallen need 2 G8 ac to get full ac, but only need 1 G4 smart to get max smart, and also hv G4speed extra by the symbol...

of sure, u can use candle... but Templar won't using 2 smart rare and using ac candle, best way is using agility candle...

but a fallen could using 2 ac rare ( this must be in use ), and then 1 smart rare then could get [full smart+full ac ] still could using a ac candle to make a extra ac on that ~

but...by the way... depends on what fo like for... fallen even using 137+ symbol, still hv a gd moving speed... could keep rest of the point to do others

[mofomaycry]

easier to build Templar with rares from hardes group
1 g8/g9 ac
1 smart
1 counter attack
and 1 strike

[jayjay]

Can any Templar out there offer a counter-argument?

Delighted.
When deciding on a symbol, rares should also be accounted as they will be on you all the time every time. And ofc, we should use high-end rares as the guidline.

Fallen: 21 smart, 10movement
X2 sc, 22ac
G8 hat, 44ac
G8 armor, 44ac
G10 shoe, st
G10 weapon, ca
In total; max ac (110), max ca/st, 21smart, 10movespeed

Templar: 40ac, 12accuracy
x2 sc, 22ac
G9 hat, 50ac
G10 armor, st
G10 shoe, ca
G5 dbl rare weapon, smart&movespeed
In total; max ac(110ac), max ca/st, 25smart, 14movespeed, 12 accuracy

As shown, Templar clearly has an edge over fallen while rares are on. Other than that, Templar has the option of using a 37% smart weapon neglecting the 14movepseed while fallen is limited to the 21% smart and 10movespeed option as the bonus came from their symbol.
However, if you plan to go completely naked (lol?) :

G4 smart = g0 when stroke/luck used.
G4 movespeed = 10 speed is meaningless when pepsied/slowed.
G4 acc = that one time when you forgot to luck but your lb hits. You were in fact meant to miss XD (fine, ignore this part)
G7.3 ac = 40ac at all times.
I'd prefer the more stable one, wouldn't you?

All in all, i fail to see how fallen is in any aspect at all a better dual than templar.


Jay