Whirling

[Elmy]

Thief hitting 4 hits on a stone is ambitious at the most. Most of the time it will only be 2 or 3 due to the funky hitbox that stones have. But anyway, it was obviously just a joke.

The only real advantage I see archers having is that once everyone is D4+, they overcome thieves by the simple fact that icing blast wouldn't be quite as effective, so they have the choice between using multi and extreme fire while thieves are a bit more limited in their selection.

[ArabianArrow]

Thief hitting 4 hits on a stone is ambitious at the most. Most of the time it will only be 2 or 3 due to the funky hitbox that stones have. But anyway, it was obviously just a joke.

The only real advantage I see archers having is that once everyone is D4+, they overcome thieves by the simple fact that icing blast wouldn't be quite as effective, so they have the choice between using multi and extreme fire while thieves are a bit more limited in their selection.

It's the opposite. Archers are limited, thieves aren't. I don't know where you get the idea that archer can kill anyone with multi. On DRint when I was D3 even my X fire couldn't kill a D3 thief. Multi has no chance, hence no one really uses it to pk. On the other hand, we got thieves, and their wide variety of tactical skills. Pepsi --> Poison --> Dbl X or icedeath. Also have defood (if they wanna be cheap). Oh, and ice shield. Not only does it add physical resistance, but also prevents pepsi.

[Elmy]

The only way I can see a X fire of a max tactic archer not killing a D3 thief is if they are very near AC cap. In that case, they have sacrificed quite a lot of damage output for it. It's just a trade-off.

Ice Death won't kill anyone who knows to anticipate it. It's not only easily dodged, but potable. Double X, you have the same. Poison, Ice shield and pepsi are good points. I won't even go into defood. However, if you use ice shield, you can't use pepsi or poison. If you use poison you lose the shield and can't put it back up.

I think a good trade off would be the archer pierce skill doing more damage through SS / protection spell than it does now.

You should be able to kill most classes as archer with multi with high force G and max tactic as soon as any protection spells they have are off except maybe priest, but they wouldn't be doing too well without protection either.

[Shayne]

Multi pwns. Bombarding your enemies with 5 hits per shot that are close together unlike thief multi.. and it pwns all mini bosses.. best pve skill.

[ArabianArrow]

Multi pwns. Bombarding your enemies with 5 hits per shot that are close together unlike thief multi.. and it pwns all mini bosses.. best pve skill.

Lol. No it doesn't pwn in PvP. The longer your enemy is alive the more of a chance he has of killing you. You said it yourself, archer is kamikaze. Multi is so easily potable. Not only that, a priest or warrior's counter/strike will eat you alive since your multi wouldn't finish them, but they can just poke you and you drop. If you'd like we can test it anytime ^^. DR FC is next door

[Shayne]

longer ure enemy is alive.. more hes spamming pots..quicker he loses. u moved from combat skills to rares .. in that case you can just use desire or robber and pwn them and you can also pot strike/ counter. by using strike/counter warrior is facing a tradeoff where he has low damage and magic resist. you said ureself its a team game.. get a mage to kill him if he's too troublesome^^ If it doesnt pwn in PVP why is archer #1 pker before CC. Despite the fact that most people spend most of hteir time pking after CC, there are other things such as snowwar. Archer has highest DPS .. it definitely is kamikaze and with enough damage.. multi is much easier to hit an enemy with and there is also double multi(10 hits in 1 shot). If you compare thief multi wit archer multi.. archer multi wins hands down.

[Noeyesee]

If you compare thief multi wit archer multi.. archer multi wins hands down.

Not. at. all

[ArabianArrow]

longer ure enemy is alive.. more hes spamming pots..quicker he loses.u moved from combat skills to rares .. in that case you can just use desire or robber and pwn them and you can also pot strike/ counter. by using strike/counter warrior is facing a tradeoff where he has low damage and magic resist. you said ureself its a team game.. get a mage to kill him if he's too troublesome^^ If it doesnt pwn in PVP why is archer #1 pker before CC. Despite the fact that most people spend most of hteir time pking after CC, there are other things such as snowwar. Archer has highest DPS .. it definitely is kamikaze and with enough damage.. multi is much easier to hit an enemy with and there is also double multi(10 hits in 1 shot). If you compare thief multi wit archer multi.. archer multi wins hands down.

Lol... you obviously forgot how easily archers can die. Oh wait, you never even played an archer in a low rate

[Shayne]

MIMIMI but ive played against them and i know how easily they can kill
edit: that reminded me of my Archer "PumPum" in Newraja.. lvl 6x 100 tt and could kill D1 mage wit double multi.. Multi was pwnage ask Duran lol.. he was the priest that followed me around to anthem me pking people in town. I even killed D1 warrior and many others because all i had to do was pot after every 1 of his hits.. but they ran out of pots first because i was spamming multi Ya of course was very fragile..2 hit KO.. but also very fast killer.. thts what archer is.. and tht was only lvl 6x:o

[Dark_Assassin]

MIMIMI but ive played against them and i know how easily they can kill
edit: that reminded me of my Archer "PumPum" in Newraja.. lvl 6x 100 tt and could kill D1 mage wit double multi.. Multi was pwnage ask Duran lol.. he was the priest that followed me around to anthem me pking people in town. I even killed D1 warrior and many others because all i had to do was pot after every 1 of his hits.. but they ran out of pots first because i was spamming multi Ya of course was very fragile..2 hit KO.. but also very fast killer.. thts what archer is.. and tht was only lvl 6x:o

Yeah I raped with my snowwar archer too.
D1's weren't a problem at all.

wahaha sw archers ftw, raped a CC mage, he came back, STUNNED my 6k hp sw archer, and fbed me wiht his 18k dmg