Dual 5 Balancing

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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby Dragonrajashop » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:59 pm

What if warrior use lightning shock on you, to pierce your twinkle star...

OH WAIT... '-_-
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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby Eleval » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:07 pm

kador wrote:
Eleval wrote:Best thing is to use Smart rares + Agility candle to get over the G10 limit. This way you're unkillable, even stroke candle have no effect (Y)


What if a D3~D4 Priest Luck -> LD + Staff you ? :lol:

Then I'm f*** '-_-
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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby KarvinenDR » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:03 pm

then use g10 basic pot and have 50% basic

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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby muking » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:49 am

täisdibla wrote:
Dragonrajashop wrote:Say whatttttttt???? '-_-

Wouldn't stroke negate ALL smart, no matter how much % you have?

It doesn't. Agility candle still works against stroke, as ridiculous as it sounds. Imo it sounds more like a bug than a feature since Stroke is supposed to provide the player with 100% accuracy.


Not really! As i and some hk friend test at other server before (NewRaja and HK DR server),
stroke candle effect vs Agility candle effect.
Which effect will happened finally depend on the time for u use.

FOr example, A hitting B
1. If A used stroke candle, then suppose 100% (No any miss, negate all smart), but if B used agility candle later, the smart rates (Miss) will change to 50%.
But 2. If B used agility canlde first, the smart rate is 50%, but if A used stroke candle later, the rates will change to 100% again.

So, to sum up, which canlde effect will show depend on who used later. used later one will chanel the before one effect.

Don't know is it same about this server, can any GM test and prove it?

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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby muking » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:50 am

Toni wrote:Why would someone use pro? (unless you are forced to, cause you getting dced by using TS).


This problem really trouble.
Not only the wizard who cant use TS will easy die by theif/archer and warrior.
Someone stand near the wizard who try to use TS will also got DC!
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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby Eleval » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:57 am

muking wrote:Not really! As i and some hk friend test at other server before (NewRaja and HK DR server),
stroke candle effect vs Agility candle effect.
Which effect will happened finally depend on the time for u use.

FOr example, A hitting B
1. If A used stroke candle, then suppose 100% (No any miss, negate all smart), but if B used agility candle later, the smart rates (Miss) will change to 50%.
But 2. If B used agility canlde first, the smart rate is 50%, but if A used stroke candle later, the rates will change to 100% again.

So, to sum up, which canlde effect will show depend on who used later. used later one will chanel the before one effect.

Don't know is it same about this server, can any GM test and prove it?

Thanks (Y) :go:

Well not really since the calculation of which attack will miss and which will not is at the moment of the attack and not at the moment when the candle is used. So basically during the attack, the stroke candle will still ingore the whole smart rares but it won't ignore the agility candle.
And to be honest, even if it's a bug or not it should stay like that. High grade Agility candles are harder to make than a simple G1 Stroke candle.
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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby muking » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:00 am

What u mean? u mean my above post not really correct?

The fact is stroke candle can ingore the smart rares but not include the ability candle?

Explain more!

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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby Eleval » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:09 am

Well I don't know how agility candle works regarding Stroke candle. But what I'm sure of is that I've survived from stroke candle by using agility candle.
And what I meant earlier is that everything is calculated at the moment of the attack. So it doesn't matter who uses the candle the first as long as both candle are activated at the moment of the attack.
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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby kit8989 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:12 am

for a famous chinese dr website
the explaination is like what ting said
the effect of candle is depend on time
but maybe eleval state a true point that the effect of stroke candle is to ignore the smart rares
but not to ignore the samrt candles
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Re: Dual 5 Balancing

Postby Eleval » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:15 am

Well, I'll test it when I can and we'll have the answer (Y)
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