Community Input on Horn of Iceberg Nerf

[Silencer]

Something is wrong with my browser it seems. I press the enter button only once and it double posts -_-

Lol retard. Try not to keep posting twice in a row, if that's not too hard for you. I did say that the problem with pepsi is that it is spammable. However, it can be overcome in PK. It is not an immobilizing skill with no way to counter it, such as ss (which had no alternative counter). There are people with G9s already on this server, so take your head out of your ass. There is a G8 basic resist legend. There's PLENTY of spots to make a perfect anti-warrior set on a wizard (Including MV). You just need to use your brain and learn more about rares and how to PK. And once again, you failed to get my point that almost every class is faster than warrior. I am not trying to say that you are faster than warrior when YOU ARE PEPSIED. You keep saying this, this is not my point. That is retarded. OF COURSE you wont be faster WHILE pepsid. That is why you make use of your speed recovery pots AT THE RIGHT TIME, gain some distance and then eliminate your opponent by keeping your distance. Once again, it is not hard to use a couple speed pots, run ahead and position a beautiful FW in the direction of the warrior is it? Not to mention, with haste and NO PEPSI, you run fast enough that the warrior has no chance of reaching you. If you know what your doing, speed pots are useful EVEN if pepsi is spammable. I can't believe someone as arrogant and with such little knowledge about the game such as yourself, is a GM. Pathetic. Get your head out your ass. You make me laugh. Direct some of this energy towards doing your job properly.

Yeah, there's Jerry. I didn't realize Jerry was more than one person. I'll keep that in mind when I meet them. G8 basic resist legend is a shoe, so you're sacrificing speed for the basic, and even then that's if you get lucky enough to get the drop. And no shit wizards are faster than warriors without pepsi, did I say they aren't? How about you stop being a retard and stop putting words in my mouth. Whether you like it or not, you're still going to get hit by pepsi even if you're faster. That's how it is. That's why I'm not mentioning it too much. And your example of positioning a beautiful FW in the direction of a warrior is nice and all, but is the warrior stupid enough to stand still and be like "OH EM GEE KEEL ME PLZ"? No, if the wizard gets that FW casted when the wizard is not pepsi'd, you move your ass and then chase after him in between casts to pepsi him again. And that's IF you can even move away what not with the constant pepsi that is being put on you. And you make me laugh about being a GM. Keep your fantasies to yourself So teach me how to play a wizard please, oh great one. I'm sure I can learn a thing or two from a warrior or whatever the heck you are

[Rooftrellen]

Really? You all want VALID counters to pepsi? Do you all suck at DR?

Archers/Thiefs - Ice Shield/Speed pots (If you complain because you want sfd too then stfu and l2play, thx)
Wizards - Resist Ice/Speed pots GfreakinG (Sure you might die in 2 hits here but I don't really care. You asked for VALID pepsi counters.)
Priest - Speed pots/D1 spell.
Warriors - Speed pots/Ice Shield (If you really want to blow the points on it.)

Did I give you enough VALID ways to negate pepsi? It's not like theres a pot cooldown here so if you have the resources you'll get out of pepsi whenever. Now if you're an r-tard and blow speed pots immediatly after being pepsid then well... you're an r-tard aren't you?

Long story short:
Either learn to play or hunt more speed pots. (I know they are like OMFG hard to get but you can try. /Sarcasm off)

Now for my suggestion to better remedy this.

Instead of nerfing pepsi. Why don't you buff the dmg reduction of ice shield and maybe give resist ice some kind of dmg reduction as well. Basically make these abilities less taxing to use. And maybe for those classes who don't have those options, make speed pots do something like *Makes you immune to movement impairing effects for X seconds.*

[GMNyx]

Please everyone to talk in a civilized manner. We all want to make the game better and more balanced. Thanks for the ones that kept on topic and added their point of view. Now we finally have some good arguments against and for it

oh and ps: Mall will have dura speed pots for cheap price so have to count this in while nerfing the skill

personally i was thinking of a quest if you return 100 speed pots to a npc he would give you 35/35 dura pot. That would be handy but maybe OP

[Silencer]

Really? You all want VALID counters to pepsi? Do you all suck at DR?

Archers/Thiefs - Ice Shield/Speed pots (If you complain because you want sfd too then stfu and l2play, thx)
Wizards - Resist Ice/Speed pots GfreakinG (Sure you might die in 2 hits here but I don't really care. You asked for VALID pepsi counters.)
Priest - Speed pots/D1 spell.
Warriors - Speed pots/Ice Shield (If you really want to blow the points on it.)

Did I give you enough VALID ways to negate pepsi? It's not like theres a pot cooldown here so if you have the resources you'll get out of pepsi whenever. Now if you're an r-tard and blow speed pots immediatly after being pepsid then well... you're an r-tard aren't you?

Long story short:
Either learn to play or hunt more speed pots. (I know they are like OMFG hard to get but you can try. /Sarcasm off)

Now for my suggestion to better remedy this.

Instead of nerfing pepsi. Why don't you buff the dmg reduction of ice shield and maybe give resist ice some kind of dmg reduction as well. Basically make these abilities less taxing to use. And maybe for those classes who don't have those options, make speed pots do something like *Makes you immune to movement impairing effects for X seconds.*

lawl looks like someone came late into the argument. Go read again before you call others a retard

[Tozohmi]

personally i was thinking of a quest if you return 100 speed pots to a npc he would give you 35/35 dura pot. That would be handy but maybe OP

This would be nice
Take up a lot less room, but my bag would need to be increased if it was 100 speed pots

[Ghuldan]

if make a denerf of iceberg,then gms should remove the speed recovery potion and make the holy cure unable to cure iced status.

I totally like this!

[WishingStar]

ice berg is fine, nothing needs to be changed.
only noob here crying about ice berg go play Hello Kitty online already

wizard can cast slow on warrior so its fair for both, who ever uses the ice beg skill or slow spell first is the winner
then use ur flame wave or firerose wat ever

[BowL]

ice berg is fine, nothing needs to be changed.
only noob here crying about ice berg go play Hello Kitty online already

wizard can cast slow on warrior so its fair for both, who ever uses the ice beg skill or slow spell first is the winner
then use ur flame wave or firerose wat ever

defood win

[WishingStar]

ice berg is fine, nothing needs to be changed.
only noob here crying about ice berg go play Hello Kitty online already

wizard can cast slow on warrior so its fair for both, who ever uses the ice beg skill or slow spell first is the winner
then use ur flame wave or firerose wat ever

defood win

not anymore,when GM going to change them lol....
glad i quit before this things going to happen

[GMNyx]

Im glad too. Because we dont want stagnant server. And do you see this is a poll? this isnt dictatorship
thanks for contributing once a again with a very informative post that youve done past month or so

Can go other server for same old same old


edit: o yeah gotta do -1 from No since you dont play