Dual 1+ Shield changes

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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby Tensu » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:19 pm

Shayne wrote:
Alexxxx wrote:Ok, let me explain that you guys seems not to understand...
Priest is the class which needs the most differents sets to be powerful...
Thief is force/distant or full force against everyone
Archer is full force or force/desire against everyone
I don't know warrior well but that's probably full force or force/ac and some counter and strike against thieves and archers
Wizard needs BR/AC.
Priest needs full AC or AC/Counter or AC/strike (cause only templars can do strike+counter due to their g7 symbol) etc.. I wont make all cause i don't know everything but Priest needs around 5 differents sets that he has to wear at differents moments, that's hard..
Oh yeah that's it, you people think that everybody wants to be templar? If you really want to balance priest power, change the AC symbol to G4, it should be enough...

stupid. '-_-


tell him how many sets u need shayne
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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby Shayne » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:22 pm

Not enough fingers on my hand.. :lol:
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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby Alexxxx » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:56 pm

@Tensu
That is exactly what i said...Priest is useless until he's Templar...
And i know that priest is not my class, i jsut made it to see how they could kill my wizards...
I'm pretty sure that there's a big difference between DS shield and d1-2-3 shields even if numbers don't show much....

If a Fallen wants to get enough AC to be strong he needs high grade pieces or many lower grade that don't allow him to get another rare such as counter or strike or even resist magic...
I think that was a way stronger with dual classes shields and their speed symbol was a way more useful to be a supporting priest when you could block your ennemies with SS but as i said you will all cry cuz Divine Curse will be used a lot now...

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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby Tensu » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:12 am

Kaiden wrote:
GMPsipress wrote:
Kaiden wrote:- Priests, Thiefs, and Archers can no longer wear Dual 1+ Shields (Only Warriors can wear)

Are you kidding me? I understand Priest, Archers and Mages but Thieves? I think I have had enough.


I don't quite understand what the problem is?

Thieves still get some AC using shields. This is better than no ac at all, like archers.
Overall, from 100 Shield to Dual 3 shield.. You lose a total of 7 AC not a huge nerf.

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If you think this is the only reason that I'm upset you are wrong. You guys keep changing, some good some bad. I wonder what will you change next? Make all characters have fixed stats? You claim that this change was nothing big? So tell me why was it changed? "Don't fix what's not broken"

You are killing what I liked the most about DR and I cant really stand it anymore.


u liked wearing dual class shields that much? '-_-
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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby Alexxxx » Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:33 am

I asked Painter to open their private test server, so we can live the changes when it's made. I admitt i can be wrong thinking i never really played Priest, but i won't admitt i am until i can see this by myself...

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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby LadyPhoenix » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:14 am

I'd say consider bring back the d1/d2/d3 shields to priest and thief but give it a d1 = 54STR, d2 = 108STR, d3=162STR requirement so people will stop complaining. (54 is the STR gained from dualing with warrior)

1. this nerfs priests and makes them weak against wiz: what about the +18 resist all you get from the priest armor that no other class has? 7 white AC is nothing compared to that. Plus priests have the second highest HP AND highest magic defense. If you compare a warrior and a priest, the priest's lack of hp balances out with the warrior's lack of magic defense due to the +18 resist all.

2. this nerfs priests because they will need g20 AC to get high physical defence. Most priests I know use silence hat, cloak of nirvana, and long shoes. You lose 1 AC from the hat, 3 AC from the cloak, 2 AC from the shoes. That's a total of 6 white AC but people don't seem to think that 6 white AC is worth the trouble of making the highest grade rares. On the other hand, losing 7 white AC at d3/d4 when you have over 50K hp is worth complaining about.
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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby Noeyesee » Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:30 am

First, i didn't posted before because i was for this sugestion, Let's take a deeper look:

Priest were OP. This is a good nerf that gonna hurth them.
Thieg are very good, and there is already too much of them IMO.


They nerfed two class that i wanted to be nerfed. I am making a priest as a main so i am not biased.

Now, i can easly understand that some people liked DR the way it was and don't want to see it changed. Gm have to make a decision: make like previous server, keep same player base, they will quit soon or late and server close. OR, change the game, make it different and hope that it will attract new player, even if you know some old player will leave.

I prefer second option.
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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby Silencer » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:42 am

Kaiden wrote:
GMPsipress wrote:
Kaiden wrote:- Priests, Thiefs, and Archers can no longer wear Dual 1+ Shields (Only Warriors can wear)

Are you kidding me? I understand Priest, Archers and Mages but Thieves? I think I have had enough.


I don't quite understand what the problem is?

Thieves still get some AC using shields. This is better than no ac at all, like archers.
Overall, from 100 Shield to Dual 3 shield.. You lose a total of 7 AC not a huge nerf.

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GMPsipress


If you think this is the only reason that I'm upset you are wrong. You guys keep changing, some good some bad. I wonder what will you change next? Make all characters have fixed stats? You claim that this change was nothing big? So tell me why was it changed? "Don't fix what's not broken"

You are killing what I liked the most about DR and I cant really stand it anymore.


Every game changes. DR is also changing (and for the best). Adjust or be left behind, your choice. And priests/thieves were broken, so yes, they were fixing something broken. I still can't believe people are crying about two of the most overpowered classes getting a slight nerf, imagine them making a major nerf haha.

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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby täisdibla » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:37 am

IDK what right thieves have to whine.. they still have the easier&stronger class when compared to archer ^^

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Re: Dual 1+ Shield changes

Postby LadyPhoenix » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:54 am

People just want more and more power. I wouldn't be surprised if giving archers +70 more damage would get less complaining than nerfing priest/thief by 7AC.
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