What do you think about the new way to do job?

[LadyDemona]

I would like to start a debate on new ways of doing job.I tried today to do mining.This took me twice time more than normally.I admire the ingenuity of the Game Masters to remove the macros but is there really a need.The system worked well before. We just needed to reduce the time to do a job to add more time for playing.From what I can observe that not only it we will take more time but it will become completely no life.I think it was better with the old method or let the players decide which system they prefer.

Personally I play to exp with my friend.But if it takes me twice more time to do my rare I would not! And if I did not I would not exp so I will not play at all.Well my friends told me about the rares of the scenario...Ya well 1th the scenario will be overload of people and 2nd they will pk for the legend.

[Cell]

Wait what? We have to play this game for real now?

[LadyDemona]

After the beta test yes...(I take exemple for the mining transfer it for all other job) We will have to mining every item.
So to do rare we will have:
To mine gold and silver ore, tranform it into igot;
Then into bottom;
Then raise the rare;
Make other bottom to make the rare...
Then mine amber to make mid igot;
Then mine sapphire to make premium igot;
Then mine diamon or topaz (that pit is always empty normaly i suppose it will be worst now)
Then make the rare ... Maybe fail cause it not 100% success
And it not also 100% the rare you wanted XD

By the way they will undo the item of the merchant to make us pass more time at the mine
That too long for me sorry...

[Minipp]

I would like to start a debate on new ways of doing job.I tried today to do mining.This took me twice time more than normally.I admire the ingenuity of the Game Masters to remove the macros but is there really a need.The system worked well before. We just needed to reduce the time to do a job to add more time for playing.From what I can observe that not only it we will take more time but it will become completely no life.I think it was better with the old method or let the players decide which system they prefer.

Personally I play to exp with my friend.But if it takes me twice more time to do my rare I would not! And if I did not I would not exp so I will not play at all.Well my friends told me about the rares of the scenario...Ya well 1th the scenario will be overload of people and 2nd they will pk for the legend.

Im sorry, but when you experience a game, aren't you suppose to actually play it to experience it? Instead, you let the macro do the jobs for you, not experiencing the game at all. I believe that is what GMs here are trying to do. Remove the need for macroing. If you reduced the time to do a job, people would STILL macro it, which defeats the purpose of trying to remove the need for macroing.

So my first question to you is, what is the fun of letting a program PLAY the game for you?

You mention 'it will be completely no life.' What do you mean by this? Nobody forces you to PLAY this game. If you think this game is too hard and it takes too much time, then I really dont know what to say. Any game you play is a time sink. If you want to be the best in the game, you will put extra time into it

You say you want to exp with your friends. Then what is stopping you from doing that? Nothing is saying, hey you HAVE to do jobs or you can't exp with your friends.

Also, you talk about Scenario, which I assume you mean abyss, undead, big maze dungeon. These dungeons are meant to be for the people that spend the time and work hard in the game. This is similar to WoW (World of Warcraft).. The hardcore players are suppose to get the better things than the casuals because they put the extra time into the game.

Just rambling, but bottom line, welcome to a MMORPG that you HAVE TO PLAY to get something.

Thanks,
Minipp

[Minipp]

After the beta test yes...(I take exemple for the mining transfer it for all other job) We will have to mining every item.
So to do rare we will have:
To mine gold and silver ore, tranform it into igot;
Then into bottom;
Then raise the rare;
Make other bottom to make the rare...
Then mine amber to make mid igot;
Then mine sapphire to make premium igot;
Then mine diamon or topaz (that pit is always empty normaly i suppose it will be worst now)
Then make the rare ... Maybe fail cause it not 100% success
And it not also 100% the rare you wanted XD

By the way they will undo the item of the merchant to make us pass more time at the mine
That too long for me sorry...

Diamond and Topaz spots now spawn in town! Making it alot more spots available.
The rare system hasn't been added into beta yet, which I am personally waiting for. Whos to tell if there is a chance to fail? Maybe gms will take into consideration since we are working more for our rares, there will be no chance to fail. Same for 'what rare you want'....

You are getting way ahead of yourself and getting frustrated over nothing I think. At the end of beta, then you can say.. "This sucks, too long, im quitting"

I think you need to wait until after beta to really see how bad rare making is going to be.

Thanks,
Minipp

[Tensu]

ppl are taking rares to uch for granted... that's why there were such overpowered priest cuz they could make max ac quit E Z... i think this new system is better however if there's more ppl comlaining about the difficulty of the quest maybe they should lower the amounts a bit...

and like minipp said, the rare making system is gonna be a lot easyer

[Minipp]

ppl are taking rares to uch for granted... that's why there were such overpowered priest cuz they could make max ac quit E Z... i think this new system is better however if there's more ppl comlaining about the difficulty of the quest maybe they should lower the amounts a bit...

and like minipp said, the rare making system is gonna be a lot easyer

I think the amounts seems to be ok. The failed amount when you create items is what really kicks you right in the PP

Thanks,
Minipp

[LadyDemona]

Been 10 years i play Dragon Raja.And im a bit tired to remake again and again and again those job and paid money for nothing. For lvling or pking the rare make the difference.If you got rare your team will lvl faster and if you got rare you pwne everyone.Ya some job will be easier then other.Or maybe it time for me to change game.Maybe i give enought time for Dragon Raja.

Btw no life = people who only think or talk about the game they pass they entire day to play the game.It almost creepy.Somewhere in america a man kill her girlfriend because she drop his equipement on the floor.So that it a no life.I was once in that cathegorie (didnot kill anyone).I made rare paid for better equipement for legend for pill for hammer. For me a hardcore player is a nolife!And i grown up i got a job and bill to pay.

What it the probleme with the macro job anyway? I always use the macro to raise my job when i sleep and i play my caracter like 1 or 2 hours a day and when i work i dont play at all. I never use a macro to make my rare.all by hand.It take my like 2 hour to make the 12 rares.Maybe more if i dont have the items.
What it worst it to afk lvling with 5 other computer with 5 different account. That it what i consider illegal.

[Tensu]

What it worst it to afk lvling with 5 other computer with 5 different account. That it what i consider illegal.

whit the new system they cant do that

[Minipp]

Been 10 years i play Dragon Raja.And im a bit tired to remake again and again and again those job and paid money for nothing. For lvling or pking the rare make the difference.If you got rare your team will lvl faster and if you got rare you pwne everyone.Ya some job will be easier then other.Or maybe it time for me to change game.Maybe i give enought time for Dragon Raja.

Btw no life = people who only think or talk about the game they pass they entire day to play the game.It almost creepy.Somewhere in america a man kill her girlfriend because she drop his equipement on the floor.So that it a no life.I was once in that cathegorie (didnot kill anyone).I made rare paid for better equipement for legend for pill for hammer. For me a hardcore player is a nolife!And i grown up i got a job and bill to pay.

What it the probleme with the macro job anyway? I always use the macro to raise my job when i sleep and i play my caracter like 1 or 2 hours a day and when i work i dont play at all. I never use a macro to make my rare.all by hand.It take my like 2 hour to make the 12 rares.Maybe more if i dont have the items.
What it worst it to afk lvling with 5 other computer with 5 different account. That it what i consider illegal.

I think you need to step back and really think why you play games in the first place then. Do you play to be the best? Or do you play to pass time and enjoy the game? Hardcore players exist in every single game you plan to play. If you are a casual player, you just need to stand back and realize, the game is going to take a bit longer for you to accomplish something than the average hardcore player. Welcome to MMORPGs

Thanks,
Minipp