Yllse or Vyseus?

[Atlantis]

lol i wonder why she hasn't changed this yet
http://dr2.us/CK/

Honest answer: 'cause I'm too lazy to open dreamwaver and it's not important enough for me to bother with it.

I suppose I can go to yllse. If the guildies that I have right now are want to/are willing to try yllse, nothing's stopping me. Vyseus is just the old tradition and I'm loyal to Vyseus.

As far as helping people... I'm jut really really tired of helping people who use my guild as a free ride or quits after I help them or ends up being a total jack ass :/ I don't have the same faith and hope in the DR community as I did in the past. I guess NR really motivated me because after 1 year, most of the assholes with giant ePenises left to play on previous servers and what was left on NR was a semi-decent community (personality wise... a lot weren't honest and used hacks or w/e though). Just reading the forums, you can see that everyone is pretty much out to get everyone else. I can't say to a new player that DR is the best game and they should stay.

Pretty much goal for CK in DRG is to just play with my old friends who are still playing DR. Anyone who wants to join us is free to do so. I don't know if I still have the motivating to reach out to people and sift through the 50 ass holes just to find that 1 good player with potential and then say it was all worth it. lol. Not to mention I'm not really the same person as I was on NR. I've grown cocky and full of myself just like most people who end up in the middle of DR drama. Pretty much everyone knows I open my damn mouth way too many times when I shouldn't. On NR my guild policy was to make as few enemies as possible so that the lower levels who can't defend themselves won't end up on KOS because of a small group of people in the guild. Over the years I've accumulated lots of "enemies" that will probably KOS CK because of it.

Well I'm loyal and i do not start trouble.

Despite what some say i think you will do very good in yllse lp. Who says 1 guild should dominate in every nation? If lucky and all the others combine to make a super guild lp will still have some good loyal members. And despite what most think i dont see this game as competitive as most do. I play to enjoy it and have fun, i'm really not out to be the best or anything.

I remember years ago i was sitting on the new raja forums and we was talking about picking nation kings. And i remember beg'n LP to join yllse but no luck. I pretty much gave up on it back then but i really think you should consider it.

[Elmy]

Honest answer: 'cause I'm too lazy to open dreamwaver and it's not important enough for me to bother with it.

I suppose I can go to yllse. If the guildies that I have right now are want to/are willing to try yllse, nothing's stopping me. Vyseus is just the old tradition and I'm loyal to Vyseus.

As far as helping people... I'm jut really really tired of helping people who use my guild as a free ride or quits after I help them or ends up being a total jack ass :/ I don't have the same faith and hope in the DR community as I did in the past. I guess NR really motivated me because after 1 year, most of the assholes with giant ePenises left to play on previous servers and what was left on NR was a semi-decent community (personality wise... a lot weren't honest and used hacks or w/e though). Just reading the forums, you can see that everyone is pretty much out to get everyone else. I can't say to a new player that DR is the best game and they should stay.

Pretty much goal for CK in DRG is to just play with my old friends who are still playing DR. Anyone who wants to join us is free to do so. I don't know if I still have the motivating to reach out to people and sift through the 50 ass holes just to find that 1 good player with potential and then say it was all worth it. lol. Not to mention I'm not really the same person as I was on NR. I've grown cocky and full of myself just like most people who end up in the middle of DR drama. Pretty much everyone knows I open my damn mouth way too many times when I shouldn't. On NR my guild policy was to make as few enemies as possible so that the lower levels who can't defend themselves won't end up on KOS because of a small group of people in the guild. Over the years I've accumulated lots of "enemies" that will probably KOS CK because of it.

Well well wouldn't it be amusing if you actually did end up in Yllse after all. I didn't think it could / would happen. You should get Deaglerk to play as well if he's not, I think he's a person I could actually like.

There will always be people who simply use guilds to their advantage. The very concept of a guild is so that it's easier to 'use' others on your way up. The only thing you can hope for is that those people become, or stay, loyal to that guild. Plus, old habits die hard. Even I am finding myself slipping back into the nice and helpful Elmy I used to be back in the day. Maybe because I know that's what it will take to make Yllse whole again. Who knows.

Cocky and full of yourself? I have no idea what that's like I used to be known as the anti-PKer protector of Yllse and pretty much the figurehead of all that was Yllse back in the original int. I think my reputation even surpassed most of the BK members at that time at one point. Back then, I was young and innocent. Went out of my way to help everyone who needed it. Aah, the good old days. It seems we all grow more... practical, as we age. Some more than others.

If Yllse is to finally be its own nation this time around, then conflicts against other nations are bound to happen regardless or whether or not people would KOS your guild just because you lead it. They would probably happen regardless of your nation, in fact. Whatever guild I make or join, I won't accept one that will be in-fighting. So, if a group wants me, they'll put aside the differences they have with the people from Yllse if they want a player that makes a difference. And heh, I have no qualms and feel no arrogance saying I'm a player that makes a difference - and by that I mean when it comes down to PK fights. There are already too few of us in Yllse that can safely make that statement. Yllse will need everything it has, so we can't be having groups who won't stand together. I'll even put aside a certain side of me for the sake of this.

You may not like some people in particular from Yllse, but I think you'll find that the saying "The enemy of my enemy..." will apply very well to you here.

Making Yllse its own nation would be so much easier if they just disabled inter-nation partying for a little bit. That way there is no reason to be tempted to not fight when you should want or need too. It will be so much work, as it is! And I might have to slay a few people too, which would be contradictory to the whole thing.

[Krypton]

why so much drama... why so many essay writing... this isn't school -_-". just decide yllse already and join elmy.

[Elmy]

Are you using your DR name to study chemistry? And essays are fun... You practice Chemistry, I practice English.

[Noeyesee]

I can make a deal with you guys, if LP and elmy and other actually unite themselves on Yllse, i can come play with you on yllse.

[AntheMz]

I can make a deal with you guys, if LP and elmy and other actually unite themselves on Yllse, i can come play with you on yllse.

I thought you are in Yllse already??

[Tensu]

I can make a deal with you guys, if LP and elmy and other actually unite themselves on Yllse, i can come play with you on yllse.

I thought you are in Yllse already??

nah... he said he quit before beta even started

[Noeyesee]

How can you quit something you ain't playing? It's not quitting, it's not playing the server.

[Krypton]

common lp, ditch vys, there's already too many people. honestly now...

[Elmy]

Right, he had said that before. That he was not going to play, that is.


Regarding this, I hope then that everyone can put behind any grudges this time around. I think it might help if everyone is in the same guild, to put those arguments behind. Usually, once you get to know someone and play with them a while, your opinion changes.

I'll say it right now that from what I've seen (mostly from forums), I never thought much of Proacker (I can never seem to get along with my fellow quebecers, especially in gaming), as I'm sure is much the same for him to me. But I'm willing to let that drop to make this work, along the same for everyone else as well. I hope that we can all agree.

There are a few people that I have discussed with or have approached me about my plans for Lucky on official. Somehow it appears that it is the popular vote to be that one guild to put Yllse together (Must be the awesome guild logo ). I have no qualms leading it, but I've always preferred giving my all to someone I could respect and follow. I don't have a problem stepping up to it if it comes down to it. Either way, I have a interesting system in mind for if I do end up leading it that will also fit how I wish to play. If it does end up being the hub for all those 'big names' and people who want to make Yllse its own, I think it could work quite nicely.

If this does happen, the goal for Lucky will be changing to be more direct. I'll post something on the Yllse forums sometime today to describe what I have in mind.

LP, I know that your plans are to make CK, whether it be Vyseus or Yllse. I have no problems with a sister-guild(s), though of course it would be preferable if we were all under one banner. It'd be great to have you if this does go through, since if I do this I will try and do it as best as it can be done - which means I will also try to include new players or those struggling ones. Knowing that you would be there to lend a hand in this aspect would be great.