Remind Me Why Priests Need SS?

[Noeyesee]

lol true dat tensu.

Anyway, anyone believing SS isn't op/unbalanced should be killed for being retard.

SS should have been deleted from this game, long ago.

[balzak]

deleting a skill is just as dumb as not recogniting its problem... it is the same thing as banning something cause you are lazzy to think in a solution for the real problem

this skill has its use in a lot of situations and deleting it to fix a pvp only issue isnt a good solution

[LadyPhoenix]

There's nothing wrong with SS if the population is balanced and SS is used properly (such as self cast-only or on own nation nation). SS allows priests to ress their side without having to go back to town which promotes more PvP instead of promoting running from town to the action over and over.

[Sok4]

For low levels 3x-100, SS is the best tanking skill.

What does that have to do with anything?

Can someone please explain to me why Priests have SS?

You asked why priests have SS, and I answered you. They need it to tank between level 3x-100 or else they're fairly useless. Unlike at high levels where they have a lot of divine and can keep casting great heal, be able to tank because of their high hp, or be able to fully heal a tank, ow level priests aren't very useful for anything.

they need ss the same reason all other classes needs any of their skills =P

Priests already have the best defense skills, not only immunity but reflection of all curse spells, and an attack the bypasses all resistance. Please be more specific.

Actually, wizards have the best defensive skills. DS is 70% physical defense. pfm is 90% range defense. Dispel is 100% magic defense. Wizards also have an attack that bypass all resistance, it's called Vampire touch. Works pretty much the exact same way as life drain.

EDIT: Just to be clear I think priests are OP too but the way you're approaching this and your whole argument is just fail. You think that SS is what makes a priest OP? After D2, priests RARELY if not NEVER use SS. So they stop being OP after D2?

Having played both Priest and Wizard, it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Priest do not need SS for leveling. Priest are perfectly capable of blasting as they level up, almost as well as Wizards. All you need is 1 nature rare and your Divine will recharge faster than you can spend it with Charisnumen. SFD is more than enough protection against monsters even at low levels.

Priests also have the best defense ability even without SS. It amazes me how anyone could deny such a thing, but I'll spell it out for you. Priests get a free 14 resist all magic from their last three pre-dual cloaks. Priests don't need offensive rares to be able to solo-kill people in PvP, so they can focus entirely on defensive rares. They also can make themselves immune to to all curse spells, even life drain. Yes, Wizards have Dragon Scale and PFM, but they both have serious drawbacks because they make the wizard entirely open to curse magic. Also, Dispel is not 100% magic defense, it drains mana instead of health. Not saying it isn't a useful spell, but don't exaggerate what it does.

[LadyPhoenix]

Seriously? you can tank 20 minotaurs at level 90 (monster's level) with only sfd and not go through your pots like crazy? Prove it please.

Besides soloing, when will your party ever let the priest blast? Unless there are multiple priests, every party I've been in tells the priest to heal to keep the tank alive so that they can kill more efficiently.

Priests get a free 14 resist all magic from their last three pre-dual cloaks. Priests don't need offensive rares to be able to solo-kill people in PvP, so they can focus entirely on defensive rares.

Rares/items = skills? Last time I checked those were equipment and your argument was for spells/skills only.

[balzak]

dont matter what you say SS is a usefull skill even if you say priest can play without it... even if the priest dont use it on hinself he can still cast it in any other class to help him tanking without loosing too much pots.. the only issue about SS is when ppl abuse it in pvp all other uses shouldnt be changed

if you want to take away skills that doesnt make much differences or could easilly be replaced by another skill them we will have probably only 2 or 3 skills per classes... stop trying to remove things if they are unbalanced in an expecific way fix it and not fully remove it...

[GMSignBreaker]

Just a little comment, I think warriors would love a priest even before DB. SFD and heal makes for infinite pots

And let us debate this with cool heads and a sense of humor

[Shah]

[/quote]

You asked why priests have SS, and I answered you. They need it to tank between level 3x-100 or else they're fairly useless. Unlike at high levels where they have a lot of divine and can keep casting great heal, be able to tank because of their high hp, or be able to fully heal a tank, ow level priests aren't very useful for anything.

they need ss the same reason all other classes needs any of their skills =P

Priests already have the best defense skills, not only immunity but reflection of all curse spells, and an attack the bypasses all resistance. Please be more specific.

Actually, wizards have the best defensive skills. DS is 70% physical defense. pfm is 90% range defense. Dispel is 100% magic defense. Wizards also have an attack that bypass all resistance, it's called Vampire touch. Works pretty much the exact same way as life drain.

EDIT: Just to be clear I think priests are OP too but the way you're approaching this and your whole argument is just fail. You think that SS is what makes a priest OP? After D2, priests RARELY if not NEVER use SS. So they stop being OP after D2?[/quote]
Having played both Priest and Wizard, it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. Priest do not need SS for leveling. Priest are perfectly capable of blasting as they level up, almost as well as Wizards. All you need is 1 nature rare and your Divine will recharge faster than you can spend it with Charisnumen. SFD is more than enough protection against monsters even at low levels.

Priests also have the best defense ability even without SS. It amazes me how anyone could deny such a thing, but I'll spell it out for you. Priests get a free 14 resist all magic from their last three pre-dual cloaks. Priests don't need offensive rares to be able to solo-kill people in PvP, so they can focus entirely on defensive rares. They also can make themselves immune to to all curse spells, even life drain. Yes, Wizards have Dragon Scale and PFM, but they both have serious drawbacks because they make the wizard entirely open to curse magic. Also, Dispel is not 100% magic defense, it drains mana instead of health. Not saying it isn't a useful spell, but don't exaggerate what it does.[/quote]

Im agree with him, priest not need ss to tank only sfd and heal himself and can lvl up solo using the spell that he said, about wizard ds is very good, pfm not work if a warrior hit you and dispell not is 100% how you say, only work against wizard and everything depends on the magery of the opponent, and the vampire is a bad spell that only work if the opponent is lower than you.

p/d: sorry for my bad english

[Noeyesee]

Seriously? you can tank 20 minotaurs at level 90 (monster's level) with only sfd and not go through your pots like crazy? Prove it please.

With an ac cape, yes.


Like i said, anyone not willing to have ss removed is a true retard. Lp you says priest ress people and it make more pking. I agree with you on this side, however this is NEVER what happens. What happens is their is a priest spamming SS on himself on a safe spot with mean pk is NEVER gonna end. Most of the time there is a second priest spamming SS on the stronger target of the other team so he can't pk either. Boring.

[LadyPhoenix]

Like i said, anyone not willing to have ss removed is a true retard. Lp you says priest ress people and it make more pking. I agree with you on this side, however this is NEVER what happens. What happens is their is a priest spamming SS on himself on a safe spot with mean pk is NEVER gonna end. Most of the time there is a second priest spamming SS on the stronger target of the other team so he can't pk either. Boring.

this is why I said when it's used properly. The spell's concept is fine if it's used for the intended purpose. I think instead of completely removing it, some checks need to be made so it's not abused. Plus I still disagree that SS is the only thing that makes a priest OP and removing it will solve all problems like the original poster seems to imply.