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[Toni]

You ask 2 people from Yllse if they doesn't feel ashamed for beig ally with Vyseus, when whole Yllse is helpg Zypern to fight us, doesn't they feel ashamed? I'm just saying.

[GMSpherix]

From what I've been told and read, Brandon and kid are acting like jerks to "their own nation". At this point, I bet Yllse would be happy to bed rid of them yet the GMs are being counter-productive and encouraging this asshole-like behavior by denying the players of Yllse the luxury of being rid of these 2. I'm not quite sure what Brandon and kid are doing but it can't be much worse than what ZT does to Yllse players. They have stated that they rather be citizens of Vyseus and thus can claim that their actions are more of a proof of loyalty to their desired nation rather purely betraying their current nation. Do you really think that Yllse benefits more from having these 2 "traitors" in their nation and causing harm to innocents?

No, Yllse would indeed be better off. For the sake of balancing nations, they would be better off in Vyseus. But since these individuals started to act like jerks towards the people in their current nation just because they wanted to get transferred, I do not plan on rewarding this kind of behavior by simply doing what they want. This would set off a bad example and people would refer to it every time they do not get a nation transfer, people will act around as jerks hoping to get transferred as well, and that is not something I'd like to see.

As I've stated before they will get their transfer once they can show to me that they can actually behave - anywhere -. There is no guarantee they are not just going to be doing the same in Vyseus once they get bored, hence I want to see they can actually behave at all.

Minipp;

You're telling me, I HAVE TO treat my current nation like kings before I can transfer??? You can kiss my white ass. GMs should never get involved in game drama unless there is a threat to the server.

I said nothing like that, I do not want you to treat anyone as kings, but the behavior I've seen in the past weeks is nothing compared to 'normal' behavior where people are free to PK people of their nation. It's all in the way of how someone behaves.

I don't really see how this is a huge and public topic, the reasons stated are very clear and we do not plan on changing this as long as the individuals in question do not change as well.

I'll keep this one unlocked for a little longer since you obviously feel the need to reply again.

[Crowley]

You ask 2 people from Yllse if they doesn't feel ashamed for beig ally with Vyseus, when whole Yllse is helpg Zypern to fight us, doesn't they feel ashamed? I'm just saying.

For the last wars there I've been in to, I just saw Yllse hardly smashing Vyseus and Zypern one after one, by the time, some d3 and 4 using a lame tatic to kill ppl in the entrance.GG
Cant handdle? maybe not and we are only a bunch of dual 1 ,some noobs and coople of d2 or 3.
You guys sure need tranfers not Zypern.

[Minipp]

GMSpherix:

No, Yllse would indeed be better off. For the sake of balancing nations, they would be better off in Vyseus. But since these individuals started to act like jerks towards the people in their current nation just because they wanted to get transferred, I do not plan on rewarding this kind of behavior by simply doing what they want. This would set off a bad example and people would refer to it every time they do not get a nation transfer, people will act around as jerks hoping to get transferred as well, and that is not something I'd like to see.

As I've stated before they will get their transfer once they can show to me that they can actually behave - anywhere -. There is no guarantee they are not just going to be doing the same in Vyseus once they get bored, hence I want to see they can actually behave at all.

This is where you need to get your story straight. We didn't want to be transfered until AFTER Kamos ((Is this guy in Yllse?? Never seen him join war or even a dungeon to help his own nation)) decided to call us traitors or betrayals.

How about we show you how much of an asshole we can be??? Would you really like that??? We can START killing Yllse while they are jobbing, while they are leveling, and while they are just sitting in town. Would that be BETTER behavior you would really like to see??? Obviously not, so when you tell me that I am acting like a JERK to my own nation, what do you really mean because we haven't done anything listed above? Do you mean helping my friends??? (Vyseus) Wouldn't that be the same as Yllse helping Zypern??? <--- Seriously answer these question!

Karvinen and I still help our current nation in wars.. so what more do you want from us when we don't feel happy even doing that???

You can't tell me to help greedy, lazy, incompentant players just because I want to get a transfer. Its not going to happen.. plain and simple. Basically what I am telling you, is that, we will be helping Vyseus in Dungeon quests and nothing is going to change that for now.... Don't transfer us, thats fine.. We will show Yllse that we don't want to be apart of their nation and if you have a problem with it, then transfer us off...if you dont..so be it, nothing is changing since we can still do what we want by helping vyseus....THE END

PS: KAMOS -- Start joining wars and dungeon quests isntead of logging off or sitting in town all the time you traitor..

Thanks,
Minipp

[frieza]

No, Yllse would indeed be better off. For the sake of balancing nations, they would be better off in Vyseus. But since these individuals started to act like jerks towards the people in their current nation just because they wanted to get transferred, I do not plan on rewarding this kind of behavior by simply doing what they want. This would set off a bad example and people would refer to it every time they do not get a nation transfer, people will act around as jerks hoping to get transferred as well, and that is not something I'd like to see.

I wanted to cry when i readed this. I always knew you were on a full power trip, but now you are simply getting retarded. Do you think yourself better/more important than a single player here? because you ain't. You are a piece of shit that join and leave GM team every single f*** time. Get the f*** out with your f*** power trip.

Pathetic gm. Even admitting that he is corrupted, won't transfer because he doesn't like the player in public... How f*** sad.

And we are as much retarded for playing the server of this moron......

[Karvinen]

From what I've been told and read, Brandon and kid are acting like jerks to "their own nation". At this point, I bet Yllse would be happy to bed rid of them yet the GMs are being counter-productive and encouraging this asshole-like behavior by denying the players of Yllse the luxury of being rid of these 2. I'm not quite sure what Brandon and kid are doing but it can't be much worse than what ZT does to Yllse players. They have stated that they rather be citizens of Vyseus and thus can claim that their actions are more of a proof of loyalty to their desired nation rather purely betraying their current nation. Do you really think that Yllse benefits more from having these 2 "traitors" in their nation and causing harm to innocents?

No, Yllse would indeed be better off. For the sake of balancing nations, they would be better off in Vyseus. But since these individuals started to act like jerks towards the people in their current nation just because they wanted to get transferred, I do not plan on rewarding this kind of behavior by simply doing what they want. This would set off a bad example and people would refer to it every time they do not get a nation transfer, people will act around as jerks hoping to get transferred as well, and that is not something I'd like to see.

As I've stated before they will get their transfer once they can show to me that they can actually behave - anywhere -. There is no guarantee they are not just going to be doing the same in Vyseus once they get bored, hence I want to see they can actually behave at all.

Minipp;

You're telling me, I HAVE TO treat my current nation like kings before I can transfer??? You can kiss my white ass. GMs should never get involved in game drama unless there is a threat to the server.

I said nothing like that, I do not want you to treat anyone as kings, but the behavior I've seen in the past weeks is nothing compared to 'normal' behavior where people are free to PK people of their nation. It's all in the way of how someone behaves.

I don't really see how this is a huge and public topic, the reasons stated are very clear and we do not plan on changing this as long as the individuals in question do not change as well.

I'll keep this one unlocked for a little longer since you obviously feel the need to reply again.

You do realize we treat our nation fine, secretaries have a hard time seeing what goes on in the field. You can ask yllse the only thing we have done was change sides and pked them... the f*** sad thing is you don't want to treat anyone as kings yet... prior to asking to be changed we didn't even pk any yllse other than c0fler and cangro for pking josimir then after the only people i can remember pking that was in yllse was some VD1 party who had 1 person unparty my friend so I killed that individual then the rest killed my friend so I kept killing them. You say stop treating yllse like shit, how can we stop something we never started? How about you stop being a hypocrite and respect your players?

[Eleval]

You do realize we treat our nation fine, secretaries have a hard time seeing what goes on in the field. You can ask yllse the only thing we have done was change sides and pked them... the f*** sad thing is you don't want to treat anyone as kings yet... prior to asking to be changed we didn't even pk any yllse other than c0fler and cangro for pking josimir then after the only people i can remember pking that was in yllse was some VD1 party who had 1 person unparty my friend so I killed that individual then the rest killed my friend so I kept killing them. You say stop treating yllse like shit, how can we stop something we never started? How about you stop being a hypocrite and respect your players?

How about you stop being hypocrit and respect the other players?

[Karvinen]

You do realize we treat our nation fine, secretaries have a hard time seeing what goes on in the field. You can ask yllse the only thing we have done was change sides and pked them... the f*** sad thing is you don't want to treat anyone as kings yet... prior to asking to be changed we didn't even pk any yllse other than c0fler and cangro for pking josimir then after the only people i can remember pking that was in yllse was some VD1 party who had 1 person unparty my friend so I killed that individual then the rest killed my friend so I kept killing them. You say stop treating yllse like shit, how can we stop something we never started? How about you stop being a hypocrite and respect your players?

How about you stop being hypocrit and respect the other players?

People have to earn my respect, and most of them fail. Like you.

[Eleval]

People have to earn my respect, and most of them fail. Like you.

And what are you? A sort of king?

[Minipp]

What players are we not respecting???

Thanks,
Minipp