Do you think this is fair?

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frieza
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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby frieza » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:28 am

Toni wrote:Wasted my time reading this shit, wtf your talkin about? Balancing-System? Where in the hell did you saw that? Imagine some of the famous mmorpg's are using this lol, lets take an example with WoW since it has been mentioned a couple of times, do you think they have this kind of balancing shit your talking about? "Oooohhhh nooooooo the Alliance has become so leet from now We make them loot only shit" your making just a fool out of you with the shit your writing above Hardcore Player will always take turns on casual Players, this is how its meant to be, and this is how it must be.


First, you problably don't know that i am proacker, i guess. We are friend for a good while now, and you know that i played pretty much every popular game. MANY MANY game as auto balancing system.

You think WoW doesn't? Well you problably didn't played it. First, in WoW, the only fight in alliance vs horde is during winters graps (hope i traducted it nicely, not sure) wich pretty much doesn't matter. The winters graps has a balancing system itself, working with the ammount of people joining.

Also, you are comparing orange to apple. PvP game to PvE oriented game.

Let's take a look at the most recent popular PvP game: Aion.

System to help casual player (high % of communities):

When you disconnect, you have a bar of ''double exp'' going up. The longest you haven't log in, the quicker you are going to level after.

Town balancing issue:

In aion, it's town vs town. Basicly like DR wars. They have a system to controlate the population. Let's take their system to dr: 1 player join zypern. No player can join zypern again until vysus/yllse get one.

Every PvP game need balancing issue. When there is no balance, the server are boring. No one like to get in wars when it's 10 vs 100.

They do fix it for event, with stuff like ''400 lvl max in team'' but not in the server, when it's the most important part.

There is a few way to work around this. One is making some private guild/nation dungeon where they get harder for the ammount/lvl of people joining. One is making the PvP less important to get to end game. Yes it's a PvP game, yes that's how we like it, but having other way around could be a good way too. I knew many hardcore player that are bad in PvP and simply doesn't like it.

It always sounded crazy to me, but some people play game like DR even for the PvE side. Every player are important let's not forget that. Some player simply want to kill balrog, not killing player. They should have a way to do it, without PvP where they can get higher dual, maybe with some bad reward.

Like, weekly there is a dungeon that you can fight in for Legend/thooth, and 2 times a week you have a dungeon you join in nation, without PvP, with some little reward but DF. The df system only help hardcore player.

In WoW, sure hardcore player have advantage, but in WoW, being a casual player doesn't stop you from having fun Ig.

At last: I find the loot system to be too random. Pretty much every recent game have a point system. Every time you get in an event, you earn some point. Let's call them DR point for the example. It can be a pretty low ammount. With dr point, you can trade them for let's says, balrog, after many event. For a g4 legend, etc.

The probleme is the snowball effect. Superior player always win in DR. Basicly, you win a few dungeon, get legend&tooth and win even more. You are now unstoppable. The snowball effect really ''kill'' server.

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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby sush » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:31 am

The balancing should be encoded to the game, not favoring someone in events. The latter is just plain corruption.

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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby mrlobak » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:59 am

post in suggestion forum.

frieza
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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby frieza » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:23 am

sush wrote:The balancing should be encoded to the game, not favoring someone in events. The latter is just plain corruption.


Quoted for truth. I do 100% agree with that.

It might be corruption, but in the end, the game need a balancing sever encoded in the game, 100% sure.

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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby SuMMeR » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:05 pm

Crying because of can't getting DS, thats all. If all the event of w.e need to make all players in server happy, i don't think it will happen.

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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby knolly » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:53 pm

If anything, the limit on the DS was the only good thing to come of the event. You can't even get the item ingame, so be glad they even let anyone get it. As far as the other limits such as tooth and eye, those are ridiculous.

The people that spent the time to lvl up and haven't gotten those items yet, why not let them have it if that's what they wanted? I mean, that is the whole point behind the santa event, right? The real problem fell once again, in the planning and preparation.

First of all, did anyone see the worthless community GM or was it all Jill? Secondly, why was there no poll to let the players decide when this should be held, like the dbl-xp event? I know some people that didn't get anything because they had to work. Did you really have to hold this event this early in the month, during the week when lots of people couldn't attend, and is it so hard to look at the war/quest schedule before releasing event times? I know another person that missed first events because of work and woke up in the middle of the worknight just to attend the last event....only to find it postponed because it started at the same time as war. So he got nothing, along with so many others that sat through the 2 hour event numerous times and didn't get called. Again, where was the community GM??? He's really proving his worth to the server...

Then there are the people that logged more then 1 char. I laughed when I saw this(see screens). I love my guildmates, but favoritism is bullshit. And just so you all don't say "WAHHHH stop crying because you didn't get what you wanted!!" I did not get to sit on Santas' lap because I won one of the "Special Gift" giveaways after 2nd event. I got lich eye, g5 force turb, phantom horse, hair dye and a lvl 3 star crest.... Now what did you get???
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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby Toni » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:34 pm

LoL. Sad...
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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby mrlobak » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:39 pm

GM suppose not to be play as normal player , incase will affect their judgement and now, wat was i tot jill was a clean minded GM, hell yeah go and help more own guild as a normal player OmegaSage. Not bad scythe i feel proud of u show us the ss, good ^_^

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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby Eleval » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:04 pm

I don't see what's wrong with what happened with SpyRoS/Kito/WildSide, all 3 are Characters with different owners that couldn't come for event, therefor someone else loged them (and asked me way before the event if they could and I told yes). Other people asked me if they could, even Within16letters (who is the maker of this topic) asked me and I said yes.
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Re: Do you think this is fair?

Postby mrlobak » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:11 pm

obviously u said 1 PEOPLE only ask for 1 gift? well if 1 PEOPLE open several char which in excuese real owner couldn't come, and why u deny some of player which have several char to get gift? i tot rules were 1 people 1 gift? so u admit ure failed in rules?


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