Archers Bugs - Promises

[GMTempest]

Hi , first i want to post 2 bugs :

1) Critical rares are not working. I have a g8 increase critical chance, and nothing happends. I should be able to do a critical 30% of times, but i do critical 3-4% of hits.

2) Extreme archer skill said at level 1: icrease damage 20-23% , but nothing happend. Same with level 2 , said increase damage 30-34%
Multi fire skill, said gives 5 arrow with 80-89% damage, that skill works fine.
So the skill with damage increase (extreme) is not working , and the skill with damage reduction works fine.....

3) On Wed Nov 17, 2010 , more than 1 year ago , people vote to increase archers damage a 10% , why nothing happend?

4) Last mounth people vote to give archers an AC reduction skill, what are the final numbers for this "future" skill ? please give us a chance to analice this before changes are done.

Please dont make offtopic commets.

1) Yeah, it's probably been bugged for ages. I'll leave answering this to a coder. I'm sure it is possible to fix.

2) Again, bugged for ages. It's been pretty widely accepted as being overpowered if it worked. The skill damage increases were made without the intention of double ex bug in mind, if it were changed the % won't be the same for balance issues. Not sure if it has any real tangible damage changes. I'll leave that to a coder again but just know there is a 99.99% chance that the damage will not increase to reflect the description.

3) Something did happen. At the very end of that topic, SIgnpainter explained the first tweek is the long- range multi. A second tweak which was intended to be converting armour (Now being replaced with AC drop) was in plan. A pure damage increase was never planned to be updated, only considered.

4) This tweak at the moment isn't planned to be a stand-alone release. It will be bundled with other updates and more information will be available then. I'm not allowed to give any more information of the contents of the updates yet.


If you have any more questions, feel free to ask

[Titus]

1) Ok , please hurry , we need those items working
2) I dont think archers and thief widely accepted this damage bug. its imposible to kill a D4 warrior or priest using 1 or 2 ex fire. if we have 20% in lvl 1 , 30% in lvl 2 and 40% in lvl 3 , we can make some diference. The damage will increase just that skill, not all archers/thief damage. If the doble extreme its a bug, should be fixed or accepted. To be honest i dont know how to do a doble extreme fire.
3) If u dont planned to update archer damage, why opened a votation? People vote for Yes , and you dont take care of it... About the AC drop skill, we are waiting for more than 15 mounths, should be priority one? Why is not going to be stand alone release? if you want to balance archers you cant introduce several modifications at the same time, will unbalance more. If it takes more than 15 mounts to make an ac drop skill , how long will take those " many updates"

Really looks like nothing will hapend here. No dates, no contents, no bugs fixed , no balance , have coders the ability to make this changes ? or we should think this sever will continue for ever in this conditions?

[WizardOfdraziW]

If you are ignorant and you dont know how to use double extreme fire why you dont delete your character? being a old player even some kinda of GM at go-dronline.be you only come to forums to complain about nothing being done for archers... but you dont take this time on learning how to play it.
You prefer to come forums and keep spamming about archers tweaks.
Grow up and learn how to play your class, then if you feel you are weak come forums again. But first please, get maxed tactics and rares otherwise how you want to kill a d4 priest?

If a stupid like you who doesnt know how to Double Extreme, with low tactics and rares, Like you, low dual grade, like you?, can just come and kill every D4 priest and warriors, I will believe Archers overpowered and we must do something to make them weak.
You are very stupid, sorry for being rude, but you deserve it.

[Toni]

But the fact you can use double extreme fire/ice, doesn't explain/tolerate the reason the skill is not giving you the damage increase.

[Eleval]

Tbh, it should be fixed but the damage increase should not be the same as in the description, or those skills will then just become hell overpowered.

[GMTempest]

1) Ok , please hurry , we need those items working
2) I dont think archers and thief widely accepted this damage bug. its imposible to kill a D4 warrior or priest using 1 or 2 ex fire. if we have 20% in lvl 1 , 30% in lvl 2 and 40% in lvl 3 , we can make some diference. The damage will increase just that skill, not all archers/thief damage. If the doble extreme its a bug, should be fixed or accepted. To be honest i dont know how to do a doble extreme fire.
3) If u dont planned to update archer damage, why opened a votation? People vote for Yes , and you dont take care of it... About the AC drop skill, we are waiting for more than 15 mounths, should be priority one? Why is not going to be stand alone release? if you want to balance archers you cant introduce several modifications at the same time, will unbalance more. If it takes more than 15 mounts to make an ac drop skill , how long will take those " many updates"

2) Well there's your problem. You want a say..20% damage increase from extreme? If you learn double extreme thats a 100% damage increase. Even better.

3) Just because it was voted on, does not mean we should do it. It only won by slight majority. The purpose of polls is to receive feedback from community.

But the fact you can use double extreme fire/ice, doesn't explain/tolerate the reason the skill is not giving you the damage increase.

Truth. Well it does tolerate the not giving damage increase. But it doesn't explain the incorrectness of the description which can tend to be misleading. Probably a easy thing to fix (To update it's description to show any damage increases if any).

[Titus]

If you are ignorant and you dont know how to use double extreme fire why you dont delete your character? being a old player even some kinda of GM at go-dronline.be you only come to forums to complain about nothing being done for archers... but you dont take this time on learning how to play it.
You prefer to come forums and keep spamming about archers tweaks.
Grow up and learn how to play your class, then if you feel you are weak come forums again. But first please, get maxed tactics and rares otherwise how you want to kill a d4 priest?

If a stupid like you who doesnt know how to Double Extreme, with low tactics and rares, Like you, low dual grade, like you?, can just come and kill every D4 priest and warriors, I will believe Archers overpowered and we must do something to make them weak.
You are very stupid, sorry for being rude, but you deserve it.

relax colo . Dont come offtopic as always to ruin post.


About the Extreme damage: GM tempest and Eleval said that damage in description should be overpowered, can you probe it with numbers? I did some maths here and dosent seen to be overpowered if we talking about of lvls 125+ with high tactics.
1 or 2 extreme fire ( i repeat : i dont know how to manipulate this bug every time i want) cant kill D4 warriors or D4 priest , using D4 archers full tactics. Please, if you have time show your numbers telling why will be overpowered.

1 more thing, if the doble extreme bug is legal, should be of popular knowledge how to use it, other way fix it and increase skill damage.

[Toni]

And please note, only at Level 150 you are able to Skill Level 3, so there should be ATLEAST a slight award for reaching Level 150, plus this would make Archer/Thief's looking forward to reach Level 150 so they can skill Level 3. (And yeah, 40% would be way too much, but I think 20% would do the work).

[WizardOfdraziW]

relax colo . Dont come offtopic as always to ruin post.


About the Extreme damage: GM tempest and Eleval said that damage in description should be overpowered, can you probe it with numbers? I did some maths here and dosent seen to be overpowered if we talking about of lvls 125+ with high tactics.
1 or 2 extreme fire ( i repeat : i dont know how to manipulate this bug every time i want) cant kill D4 warriors or D4 priest , using D4 archers full tactics. Please, if you have time show your numbers telling why will be overpowered.

1 more thing, if the doble extreme bug is legal, should be of popular knowledge how to use it, other way fix it and increase skill damage.

My name is Matias, 17 years old kinda new player in dr world.
You go practice how to use ur archer.
Imnot going offtopic, you complaining and suggesting things at this section... wrong.
How its possible a guy who doesnt know how to play, who dont have rares and his tactics are low, come to complain?
You asking why will be overpowered if the damage get increased... and its because you dont know the real power of an archer.
Use common sense titus, without bitch at you.
You just explain to the whole DR community how you will request many things to be improved to archer class, without know how to play, no rares no tactics..
Please explain it to us..

[Titus]

relax colo . Dont come offtopic as always to ruin post.


About the Extreme damage: GM tempest and Eleval said that damage in description should be overpowered, can you probe it with numbers? I did some maths here and dosent seen to be overpowered if we talking about of lvls 125+ with high tactics.
1 or 2 extreme fire ( i repeat : i dont know how to manipulate this bug every time i want) cant kill D4 warriors or D4 priest , using D4 archers full tactics. Please, if you have time show your numbers telling why will be overpowered.

1 more thing, if the doble extreme bug is legal, should be of popular knowledge how to use it, other way fix it and increase skill damage.

My name is Matias, 17 years old kinda new player in dr world.
You go practice how to use ur archer.
Imnot going offtopic, you complaining and suggesting things at this section... wrong.
How its possible a guy who doesnt know how to play, who dont have rares and his tactics are low, come to complain?
You asking why will be overpowered if the damage get increased... and its because you dont know the real power of an archer.
Use common sense titus, without bitch at you.
You just explain to the whole DR community how you will request many things to be improved to archer class, without know how to play, no rares no tactics..
Please explain it to us..

1) you dont know what rares i have
2) I dont need to have 200tt and G20 force to know what my archer damage will be, thats the difference beteween COLO , you and me, i went to school , so i can use maths to know how much damage i will make if nothing change.
3) The fact that i dont manipulate bugs and want them fixed, dosent means i dont know how to play.
4) You should try to take some distance from Colo, he is a bad example for you, you looks more like him every day .
5) If you didnt understand point 2) i can waste some time and put some numbers for you.

Have a good day