Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

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Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby csguarezi » Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:06 pm

Guys,

many times i see ppls saying that this or that have a bug. And i make a lot of tests in strike and counter and sometimes works sometimes not.

Soo i wanna know how this work?

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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby GMNyx » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:11 am

Strike: attackers dmg * rare
Counter: attackers max HP * rare

20% chance to activate when equiped with g1 or greater

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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby csguarezi » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:00 pm

Nyx u are saying that each 10 hits on me only 2 strike/counter will work? (20%)
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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby täisdibla » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:34 pm

csguarezi wrote:Nyx u are saying that each 10 hits on me only 2 strike/counter will work? (20%)

Yes, but it feels like ALOT MORE THAN THAT!

I hit some warrior called "Lucky" in war once, every time I hit him with multi or even half a multi my HP dropped to 1k.

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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby LadyPhoenix » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:55 pm

täisdibla wrote:
csguarezi wrote:Nyx u are saying that each 10 hits on me only 2 strike/counter will work? (20%)

Yes, but it feels like ALOT MORE THAN THAT!

I hit some warrior called "Lucky" in war once, every time I hit him with multi or even half a multi my HP dropped to 1k.


'-_- 1 multi = 5 arrows. 5 *20% = 100%. Statistically, every multi means 1 arrow will be reflected. Archers have much lower hp than warriors. Before I quit, you were hitting pretty damn hard. I'm sure you hit harder now. G5 strike is 173% reflect. If lucky is using g10 strike, he would have low AC so you do more damage to him and it's like 300+% reflected back at your archer with lore hp.
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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby csguarezi » Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:52 pm

LadyPhoenix wrote:
täisdibla wrote:
csguarezi wrote:Nyx u are saying that each 10 hits on me only 2 strike/counter will work? (20%)

Yes, but it feels like ALOT MORE THAN THAT!

I hit some warrior called "Lucky" in war once, every time I hit him with multi or even half a multi my HP dropped to 1k.


'-_- 1 multi = 5 arrows. 5 *20% = 100%. Statistically, every multi means 1 arrow will be reflected. Archers have much lower hp than warriors. Before I quit, you were hitting pretty damn hard. I'm sure you hit harder now. G5 strike is 173% reflect. If lucky is using g10 strike, he would have low AC so you do more damage to him and it's like 300+% reflected back at your archer with lore hp.


LP very thanks!

And must i use strike against thiefs / archers and counter against warrior? I see some people saying "STRIKE SUX, STRIKE TRASH, MAKE COUNTER!"....
sOME TIMe ago i tryied use a g7 strike in arena (g4+g3) and this works very well.

LP thanks for teach me dude. When u back to play?
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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby LadyPhoenix » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:04 pm

The best thing to do is to mix strike + counter. Even g4 strike + g4 counter works better than g8 strike or g8 counter in most cases. That's what I found when testing at least.

I would say if you fight someone with high damage (high tt char or good rares) use strike. If you fight a low tt char, use counter. More damage = strike work better.


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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby GMNyx » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:14 am

LadyPhoenix wrote:The best thing to do is to mix strike + counter. Even g4 strike + g4 counter works better than g8 strike or g8 counter in most cases. That's what I found when testing at least.


g2 counter
Counter: 20%
g2 strike
Strike: 20%

g1 counter + g1 strike
Counter or Strike: 40%
Counter and Strike: 4%

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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby LadyPhoenix » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:17 am

strike OR counter > nothing. What I said still stands true. I never said it's better because it does more damage.
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Re: Someone teach me how COUNTER ATTACK and STRIKE works?

Postby GMNyx » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:21 am

nor did i, i was just explaining to everyone why a mix would most likely be a better solution if you apply some statistics


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