Dark Bear Skin

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby Tensu » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:07 pm

täisdibla wrote:
Minipp wrote:Chance... its in every single MMORPG game you will play. If you raised the chance a skin will drop any more, you might as well give G1 symbols for free. Thats how common a dark bear skin will be.

Its pretty sad that so many people play MMORPG games and don't understand these simple concepts.

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I understand that for something like drop rate of epic drops like legends, but dark bear skins.. it's like a mission/quest item to improve your character. The same with cyc skins. You need them anyway and they aren't some uber epic drops, making them a little less about lucky wouldn't be that bad imo. We're not talking about maze drops here.


i'm pretty sure rares are quit needed (for both lvling and pk) in this game. So i dont see ur point on it not being as 'epic' as legends.
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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby täisdibla » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:32 am

Tensu wrote:
täisdibla wrote:
Minipp wrote:Chance... its in every single MMORPG game you will play. If you raised the chance a skin will drop any more, you might as well give G1 symbols for free. Thats how common a dark bear skin will be.

Its pretty sad that so many people play MMORPG games and don't understand these simple concepts.

Thanks,
Minipp :twisted:


I understand that for something like drop rate of epic drops like legends, but dark bear skins.. it's like a mission/quest item to improve your character. The same with cyc skins. You need them anyway and they aren't some uber epic drops, making them a little less about lucky wouldn't be that bad imo. We're not talking about maze drops here.


i'm pretty sure rares are quit needed (for both lvling and pk) in this game. So i dont see ur point on it not being as 'epic' as legends.


You can go without legends, but I doubt anyone will go without a symbol.

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby Tensu » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:28 am

i remember back in old in, ppl just used to dual for the stats rather then the symbole... they didnt care about hunting skins for symbole either
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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby täisdibla » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:01 am

Tensu wrote:i remember back in old in, ppl just used to dual for the stats rather then the symbole... they didnt care about hunting skins for symbole either

Times change, if you haven't noticed everyone picks dual according to which symbol is better now :roll:

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby zomfg » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:18 am

Why did you picked trigermage then?

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby Tuja » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:22 pm

täisdibla wrote:
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täisdibla wrote:The point is you don't get enough skins for both you and your party and you have to spend extra time at DB just for the skins, but I kinda like it being hard like that. Then again I hate it being based on luck since some people get 20 skins in 4-5 hours. Maybe make them drop at a certain rate? like 1 skin every 30 bears or so.


Which would be equal to a 1 to 30 chance of being dropped. There can be hardly any other system.

The only thing which could be changed is a dice-system just as every mmorpg seems to have.


No it wouldn't be equal, for example I have extremely bad luck with DB skins, 1 skin every 50-60 DB is not fun. This would rule out good/bad luck.
I have nearly max tt for level 107 and I haven't got enough DB skins for 2 people even.


Of course it would. Which other system should work appropriately? Do you want an 100% drop for every 30th db you kill? Impossible. Why? Either if would be based on the last hit, which would result in even more dbs that you need to kill (not speaking of the impossibility to gain db skins for the healer) or any db that you hit, so you could randomly run across the glades and count the dbs youve touched so far. In the long run the variance aint that bad, so if there really is a 3% chance of a drop, assuming that for you its every 50-60th bear is just wrong. Chance is, as previously mentioned before, a mechanism thats been implemented in every game. The only disadvantage in DR is that its just dropped onto the floor favoring the melee classes.

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby täisdibla » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:31 pm

Tuja wrote:Of course it would. Which other system should work appropriately? Do you want an 100% drop for every 30th db you kill? Impossible. Why? Either if would be based on the last hit, which would result in even more dbs that you need to kill (not speaking of the impossibility to gain db skins for the healer) or any db that you hit, so you could randomly run across the glades and count the dbs youve touched so far. In the long run the variance aint that bad, so if there really is a 3% chance of a drop, assuming that for you its every 50-60th bear is just wrong. Chance is, as previously mentioned before, a mechanism thats been implemented in every game. The only disadvantage in DR is that its just dropped onto the floor favoring the melee classes.


I've got 80% of the skindrops in my parties, there is really no trouble in getting them before the tank. And I don't assume it, it takes me less than a minute to kill a DB ( about one db/minute counting respawn time ) and I usually get 1 DB skin per hour ( if im lucky ) so...

Yea thanks for pointing out the huge flaw in that idea though.

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby Tuja » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:10 pm

Eh, sorry, I wasnt assuming that youre wrong, all I wanted was to point out that there is a certain dropchance and the variance shouldnt be too high for the total of 20 db skins. The drop chance just might be 2% which would mean youre right.

and I still think that this game needs a fair dice system. :-(

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby Rose » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:17 pm

no no..for my opinion it seem ok..that show survivor..cuz rare rate already 100%
its preety nice..if drop rate skin change ill think this server gonna be half of highrate
u see now already got almost top lv player..how?think it..
if drop skin rate change got much thing change first easy to get sym cuz mm not much hard,tree,gazers is easy just take a two days for 2set each required..
u see?
the first 1 for g1 sym is hard is good
two is price to sell?if u already enough skin for g1 and got balance surely u will think to sell it..soon it will made no price same as bone of yetti..do u want it?
three cuz this is official server ill think its good..
but ya i agree if want easy for skin better send ticket as gm to make this server as highrate..
mira im not condemn u but somestimes we need to feel hard..like me..much thing i didnt know and ill try to learn it..its quit fun even we waste time for games..
but this is hobby..so keep it on! (Y) ^o^ :love:

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Re: Dark Bear Skin

Postby Faith » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:50 am

Yeah cyc

Gezzzz...

Been there 2 days..

Over 4 1/2 hour one day NO SKIN !!

Over 2 hours another day NO SKIN !!

We started to wonder if there was a bug or smth..

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