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Remove Dark Blade from Thief and change defood
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:37 pm
by täisdibla
Ok so thief has already 1 excellent slow : Horn of Iceberg so why does he get 1 more to use incase the previous doesn't work? Imo 2 slows should only be left to warrior. Make thief unable to use Dark Blade and refund the current thieves who have Dark Blade their 3 skill points.
This would mostly affect thief vs thief and thief vs archer since both thief and archer can use ice armor to block the pepsi effect but then makes it possible to use dark blade against them.
As an archer, my opinion is biased, but anyways.. why the hell should half of my speed be taken away so that unless I have a large storage of speed recovery pots I just have to watch the enemy thief rape me to death with distant rares while I can't multi/ex him due to him having 3x my speed at that moment ( and don't get me started on converting armor/shark missile, those are a joke against a thief ).
They already have a great slow which is more effective and harder to remove/counter than dark blade, they don't NEED this, but it's extremely well abused in certain situations.
If you have any good arguments on why thieves should be able to keep Dark Blade, let em fly.
Ok LP has given me another idea: Make Cheroy Shade only usable with melee weapons, so whenever thieves want to defood, they have to equip a melee weapon to do it. Ranged defood 30% per hit is just too good and making it melee only won't be too much of a nerf since the point of the skill is defood not distant damage.
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:56 pm
by Tensu
dont underestimate the power over converting armor (ac drop) cuz it can be realy pwoerfull, to bad it doesnt work with defence spells on tho, that's the only bitchy part about it.
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:33 am
by Dark_Assassin
i don't see problem, if they on a melee weapon then they cant kill you, warriors can choose skills from all 6 skill tress, i don't see why if you want dark blade to be removed from thieves why you wouldn't suggest warriors loosing horn of iceberg, your argument on this is really, just plain silly.
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:23 am
by täisdibla
Dark_Assassin wrote:i don't see problem, if they on a melee weapon then they cant kill you, warriors can choose skills from all 6 skill tress, i don't see why if you want dark blade to be removed from thieves why you wouldn't suggest warriors loosing horn of iceberg, your argument on this is really, just plain silly.
I don't mind warrior having both of the slows, they are supposed to be the class with the most versatility in combat skills and for example a fencer warrior needs pepsi if they want a slow because they can't get dark blade. And the point is they switch to pike to dark blade then switch back, just like with pepsi.
In the case of a warrior, he still needs to stay close to attack you whereas thief can just outrun you and blast you easily with distance rares.
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:49 am
by Dark_Assassin
täisdibla wrote:thief can just outrun you and blast you easily with distance rares.
cant do that with a pike
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:28 pm
by täisdibla
Dark_Assassin wrote:täisdibla wrote:thief can just outrun you and blast you easily with distance rares.
cant do that with a pike
You can switch weapons, ever heard of that tactic?
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 1:05 am
by LadyPhoenix
I rather had defood be removed from thief since that can be used with a knife
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:06 am
by refresh
täisdibla wrote:Ok so thief has already 1 excellent slow : Horn of Iceberg so why does he get 1 more to use incase the previous doesn't work? Imo 2 slows should only be left to warrior. Make thief unable to use Dark Blade and refund the current thieves who have Dark Blade their 3 skill points.
This would mostly affect thief vs thief and thief vs archer since both thief and archer can use ice armor to block the pepsi effect but then makes it possible to use dark blade against them.
As an archer, my opinion is biased, but anyways.. why the hell should half of my speed be taken away so that unless I have a large storage of speed recovery pots I just have to watch the enemy thief rape me to death with distant rares while I can't multi/ex him due to him having 3x my speed at that moment ( and don't get me started on converting armor/shark missile, those are a joke against a thief ).
They already have a great slow which is more effective and harder to remove/counter than dark blade, they don't NEED this, but it's extremely well abused in certain situations.
If you have any good arguments on why thieves should be able to keep Dark Blade, let em fly.
good a player not afraid of anything.
I'm afraid of Ettin
Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:33 am
by täisdibla
refresh wrote:täisdibla wrote:Ok so thief has already 1 excellent slow : Horn of Iceberg so why does he get 1 more to use incase the previous doesn't work? Imo 2 slows should only be left to warrior. Make thief unable to use Dark Blade and refund the current thieves who have Dark Blade their 3 skill points.
This would mostly affect thief vs thief and thief vs archer since both thief and archer can use ice armor to block the pepsi effect but then makes it possible to use dark blade against them.
As an archer, my opinion is biased, but anyways.. why the hell should half of my speed be taken away so that unless I have a large storage of speed recovery pots I just have to watch the enemy thief rape me to death with distant rares while I can't multi/ex him due to him having 3x my speed at that moment ( and don't get me started on converting armor/shark missile, those are a joke against a thief ).
They already have a great slow which is more effective and harder to remove/counter than dark blade, they don't NEED this, but it's extremely well abused in certain situations.
If you have any good arguments on why thieves should be able to keep Dark Blade, let em fly.
good a player not afraid of anything.
I'm afraid of Ettin
I'm afraid of goblins, they rape

Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:56 am
by Dark_Assassin
täisdibla wrote:Dark_Assassin wrote:täisdibla wrote:thief can just outrun you and blast you easily with distance rares.
cant do that with a pike
You can switch weapons, ever heard of that tactic?
then use a blue pot when they switched back