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Balance Symbols
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:01 pm
by LadyPhoenix
Could all symbols be balance so that Primary Effect = G6 and Secondary effect = G4 at G4?
Right now some symbols have G4 effect while others have G7.5 at G4. For example:
Conquerer: G7.5 Ac + G4 accurate = G11.5 of usefulness
Desperado: G4 Force + G4 accurate = G8 of usefulness
Obviously most people would go with the symbol that has the most total grades of usefulness.
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:15 pm
by Tensu
but symbols are complementary compared in number they add... so it's quit fair there...
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:39 pm
by LadyPhoenix
what do you mean by number they add?
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:57 pm
by Tensu
for example, g5 symbole force gives 60 physical damage and g5 AC sumbole gives 58 AC so it's about the same in numbers
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:13 pm
by LadyPhoenix
but then it's like saying G2 AC and G1 force are equal because it's +11 and +10 of defense/attack.
When you look at symbols, you pick the symbol you need the most of. Say for an archer you want G20 force + G20 AC ideally because that's the max. It would be more beneficial to pick the symbol that gives G7.5 worth of rares rather than the G4 even though they give the same number because then you will need less rares to reach that ultimate goal of maxing those effects.
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:27 pm
by Tensu
it's cuz not all rares are equally strong either... g20 force would give u 200 damage while g20 ac would give u 110 AC max
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:31 pm
by LadyPhoenix
Yeah so at G4 (41 AC vs 40 attack power).
41AC = 37% of max AC
40 damage = 20% of max attack power
So having them be the same number doesn't make them balanced.
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 2:19 pm
by balzak
i was trying not to post but i couldnt resist this one =P
why ppl think that same number means they are balanced? LP is right here if 10 ac is "the same" as 10 force them G1 ac and G1 force would aways have the same values.. the same rules that applies to G rares should apply to Symbols sinse they work the same way.. each effect work in a specific way so you cant say they are balanced just cause the number seems to be equal..
Re: Balance Symbols
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:18 pm
by pepex
i wont say much since i dont know exacly how rares work but i think tensu has a point where he says that some rares are more usefull than others, i think that to make all duals worth gms should give them something else than extra rares like a unique skill, something that make people say i will go that dual becouse that skill complement my build or playstile.