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Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:13 am
by ytnewtruof
major issues with grand wizard class, i realize this is just beta, and the full effect of rares + item drops arent really in effect, as every weapon using class has access to shining weapons, but, the grand wizard class is highly underpowered


there is a major issue right now

currently, most every class aside from priest can do enough dmg in 1 cs skill, or if priest is high enough, spell + attack, to kill any grand wizard out there

this is infact ridiculous, as everyone in the game belives its bullshit for a wizard to stun, defood, slow, or use any spell that might change the flow of the fight to thier advantage, countless times have i heard people bitch about stun or something that caused them to loose a fight bcuz its, cheap, or noobish, when really, there isnt much a wizard can do except hit once with spell and hope the enemy has weak armour and no endurance

this is a major issue because in pvp, unless u chug 50 hp pots and hope the enemy fails something, u cant win, i have a lv 129 mage, with max con, max hp for that lv, and i can be killed in 1 hit, easy, but can i kill anyone in 1 hit? no, even with +96 wiz dmg( have checked resist less dmg), cannot kill any class without hitting a Blood lightning when they arnt moving, in my mind, thats not right, warriors can hit from across the screen, with a double hit, hitting for sometimes 15k each, doing 30k dmg in 1 second, but the wizard, might be lucky to do 10k, in 3-5 seconds

in my mind, the grand wizard should be feared, in most games, a wizard that powerful that lv, should be able to kill most chars with thier most powerful spell in 1 shot, yea, i can hit 25-30k on a noob, but someone my lv, its near impossible to kill, this is a major issue, regardless of the defense of the wizard, it makes high lv pvp for wizard almost impossible, and kills the class, my suggestionn is, raise the symbol for grand wizard, make it a feared class so that yea, u can kill them, if ur good, but, if they are strong, they can kill other classes aswel, or else we get the issue of people getting 105 wiz, or d3 wiz, and nking and pking low lvs just so they can get kills

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:32 am
by Elmy
Lol, why "Grand Wizard" and not just "Wizard"? =/ Your complaint should be across the board.



Anyway, 2 words for you.



Basic Resist.

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:53 am
by Tensu
another retard topic... wiz isnt underpowered AT ALL... nopt to mention grand wizard has a symbole with 2 g5 usefull effects.

u think grandwizards are weak in beta just cuz u hvnt made any rares yet. like elmy already stated, makes basic reist and u can kill any class u want (except priest with resist rares maybe)... not to mention that u dont hv a hihg amount of mv rares either atm wich makes ur dmg look low ofcourse ... btw, grandwizard has realy low ac so that's the reason u die 1 ex instead of ppl needing to hit u 2 ex (or just more then 8 hits)... so less complaining and more thinking before u decide what class u choose

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:37 am
by BowL
lol again :lol: :lol:

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:53 am
by grofire
i agree on some things u said but im sure some retureds (hm hm zt) going to say all good.....
the fact is very simpel thay never fight duels so thay not fomlier with 1 on 1 fighting its in the best senrio all on all, but almust alwis 20 of them on 1 or 2 ppl. u understand thay are "good" players (Y)

in any case i hope things will go better whan u ritch ur full mv and br set and do not foreget to add ac too.

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:26 pm
by Revolt
grofire wrote:i agree on some things u said but im sure some retureds (hm hm zt) going to say all good.....
the fact is very simpel thay never fight duels so thay not fomlier with 1 on 1 fighting its in the best senrio all on all, but almust alwis 20 of them on 1 or 2 ppl. u understand thay are "good" players (Y)

in any case i hope things will go better whan u ritch ur full mv and br set and do not foreget to add ac too.

how do you always manage to drag us into it?,

tbh i think wizards are fine as they are, your only having problems because you cant make rares if you have gone grand wizard then ur AC is a big problem...

although to make grofire happy we should really vote to give wizards, Free rares, 1000 AC, +5000 Magic dmg cape and And Free mall items...

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:49 pm
by Atlantis
Revolt wrote:
grofire wrote:i agree on some things u said but im sure some retureds (hm hm zt) going to say all good.....
the fact is very simpel thay never fight duels so thay not fomlier with 1 on 1 fighting its in the best senrio all on all, but almust alwis 20 of them on 1 or 2 ppl. u understand thay are "good" players (Y)

in any case i hope things will go better whan u ritch ur full mv and br set and do not foreget to add ac too.

how do you always manage to drag us into it?,

tbh i think wizards are fine as they are, your only having problems because you cant make rares if you have gone grand wizard then ur AC is a big problem...

although to make grofire happy we should really vote to give wizards, Free rares, 1000 AC, +5000 Magic dmg cape and And Free mall items...


Lol to true to the above quote.

Alright NO mage is not underpowered and simple for the reason elmy said. Mages depend HIGHLY on rares but when you get them your super powerful.

Besides i dunno what your talkin about i have a d1 thief and a d2 mage can 1 hit fb,fw me. Just slow then hit its really pretty simple. If you want me to come hold your hand and help you aim and click i cant do that i'm sorry. Maybe in the future the GM will come up with Auto Aim for you guys.

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:11 pm
by BowL
archer easy die to mage ..
so i think archer is underpowered too
SOLUTION : DELETE PRIEST N MAGE

PEACE (Y)

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:10 pm
by sush
Wizard is shit without basic resist in high lvls. That is a fact. And to have a class that relys on one rare to be able to pwn, sucks balls aswell, especially when the rare is the hardest to make. But meh, i dont think they should change wizards, its still all balanced. Ty basic resist :love: endless luvs yo.

Re: Grand Wizard

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:22 pm
by Jarlaxle
Revolt wrote:
grofire wrote:i agree on some things u said but im sure some retureds (hm hm zt) going to say all good.....
the fact is very simpel thay never fight duels so thay not fomlier with 1 on 1 fighting its in the best senrio all on all, but almust alwis 20 of them on 1 or 2 ppl. u understand thay are "good" players (Y)

in any case i hope things will go better whan u ritch ur full mv and br set and do not foreget to add ac too.

how do you always manage to drag us into it?,

tbh i think wizards are fine as they are, your only having problems because you cant make rares if you have gone grand wizard then ur AC is a big problem...

although to make grofire happy we should really vote to give wizards, Free rares, 1000 AC, +5000 Magic dmg cape and And Free mall items...



TBH I think they should have a mv or br cape for the wiz. The only option for a wiz in capes is ac or life with stats to guard against ld.