Experience gains from PVP

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Experience gains from PVP

Postby täisdibla » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:13 am

I thought of an old game I used to enjoy and I picked up a neat idea from there could be implemented into Dragon Raja.

:idea: How about you gain experience for dealing damage to players in all neutral areas where you don't gain NK ( West Glade, Northern Wanen etc ). You already gain exp for buffing players, why not killing them as well? The experience ratio would depend on the level group of the user and would only work killing people of the same level group or higher. Lets say level 1-50 [damage 1:1 exp], level 51-100
[damage 1:5 exp], level 101-150 [damage 1:15 exp]. These are JUST EXEMPLARY numbers and you shouldn't shrug off the idea cause of them alone.

:?: I think this would further promote PvP and PK even more and DR is a PK game after all. Having exp gains would also make things slightly more rewarding. This couldn't really be abused to powerlevel oneself as there is no "last hit experience" and players die quickly.

:idea: Another idea is to give PWP from the nation war an additional use. Players would receive additional experience to what their Party Experience status is currently set to: level, tactic or magic. The experience gain per each Personal War Point would be determined by the level of the player ( the higher the bigger amounts of experience gained ).

:idea: My last idea would be to increase the exp gain for using buffs, Authority of Whole Save and curse removal spells, once again based on the player's level.

:arrow: If you combine these ideas, people who would normally level would have more incentive to join events such as mazes and nation wars. Imagine you gain exp for damaging people in the war ( pvp ), buffing them, reviving them. Then you also gain an exp reward based on your PWP later. Heck, even dealing damage to the stones could yield experience.

:!: If you don't add leveling quests as you promised, at least add this, heck it'd probably be more fun anyway.

I'll be looking at and welcoming constructive criticism to my ideas. (Y)

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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby Dragonrajashop » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:13 pm

täisdibla wrote::idea: How about you gain experience for dealing damage to players in all neutral areas where you don't gain NK ( West Glade, Northern Wanen etc ). You already gain exp for buffing players, why not killing them as well? The experience ratio would depend on the level group of the user and would only work killing people of the same level group or higher. Lets say level 1-50 [damage 1:1 exp], level 51-100
[damage 1:5 exp], level 101-150 [damage 1:15 exp]. These are JUST EXEMPLARY numbers and you shouldn't shrug off the idea cause of them alone.


I don't like this idea unless it's only during war. I'll further explain later when I get some time after work.
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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby Ipwn_ » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:33 pm

nice thought, but i don't think it would work out. The exp gains would be highly in a mage/thiefs favor. Imagine people AFKing at undead, just one wiz with bl can take out nearly all of them at once and obtain lots of exp. And its still easily abused, especially with priest characters. Just set up a macro to hold shift and hit in one spot and every few seconds cast ress and ress the target, and repeat.

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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby täisdibla » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:08 pm

Ipwn_ wrote:nice thought, but i don't think it would work out. The exp gains would be highly in a mage/thiefs favor. Imagine people AFKing at undead, just one wiz with bl can take out nearly all of them at once and obtain lots of exp. And its still easily abused, especially with priest characters. Just set up a macro to hold shift and hit in one spot and every few seconds cast ress and ress the target, and repeat.

It will take ages as people have a maximum of 74k hp and it takes a lot of time to revive them. Also, no last hit exp. Leveling in monsters would be much more efficient any way you look at it.

Also I don't see how it is in favour of wizards when it's actually in favor of archers/thieves/warriors. They deal consistent damage whereas wizards spell cast. Also priests could gain experience from buffs as I said, that would make things more fair for them.

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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby Dragonrajashop » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:03 pm

I want to retract my previous statement. I like the ideas now that I really think about it. The experience gain wouldn't be nothing to 'abuse'.

I really want to see the old DR back, with a lot of PVP happening everywhere and every little bit will help, so I +1 this suggestion.
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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby kador » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:08 pm

Dragonrajashop wrote:I want to retract my previous statement. I like the ideas now that I really think about it. The experience gain wouldn't be nothing to 'abuse'.

I really want to see the old DR back, with a lot of PVP happening everywhere and every little bit will help, so I +1 this suggestion.


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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby täisdibla » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:11 pm

Dragonrajashop wrote:I want to retract my previous statement. I like the ideas now that I really think about it. The experience gain wouldn't be nothing to 'abuse'.

I really want to see the old DR back, with a lot of PVP happening everywhere and every little bit will help, so I +1 this suggestion.

Yeah and I suggested this because I've seen it work well. Surely you've heard of Runescape and the Wilderness ( I didn't want to mention another game, but eh everyone knows RS ).

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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby Thomas » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:50 pm

kador wrote:
Dragonrajashop wrote:I want to retract my previous statement. I like the ideas now that I really think about it. The experience gain wouldn't be nothing to 'abuse'.

I really want to see the old DR back, with a lot of PVP happening everywhere and every little bit will help, so I +1 this suggestion.


Get ur best char. Make Karvinen get his too. Together, we may bring death and destruction to Zypern and Vyseus (Y)


um,, you mean Zypern and Yllse :)

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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby täisdibla » Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:05 pm

Death to everyone that disobeys my divine will! Now seriously, stop going off topic in my suggestion please. :lol:

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Re: Experience gains from PVP

Postby kador » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:23 pm

I wasnt off-topic...
My point is: wanna get pvp like old times? Start playing like old times... Get your party and go PK people (just be careful enough to not harass...)
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