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Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:40 pm
by LadyPhoenix
This conversation is in just about every single thread... let's compile and centralize it into a brainstorm session as to if they need to be change and if they do, how to change them? Add suggestions for things already on the list or new spells/skills to add to the list

Abusable/OP Spells/skills:
1.SS
-cool down
-not 100% protection
-cast on self only
-add a "pray"-like effect where skills/spells can't be used for x amount of time after SS fades

2.Stun/stone
-cool down
-NPC bought languid potions
-more counter stun skills/spells

5.divine curse
-cool down
-potions to counter effect

6.defood
-cool down
-more counter defood spells/skills
-lower % of spell/skill so it takes less food

7.Wings
-lower magic resist
-decrease time that the spell lasts

8.PFM
-lower % of damage reduction
-decease time that spell lasts

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:55 pm
by ArabianArrow
All are fine, except for SS.

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:55 pm
by LadyPhoenix
my bad >_< I meant divine curse.

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:09 pm
by Elmy
I'd say change the way defood works, and either remove Curse rares or reduce the max amount of G to say 5 or something. Everything else is fine. Well, disable casting SS on others in war. Or just enemies.

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:19 pm
by Tensu
all spells are fine except for ss and defood cuz there's no ways to prevent them (or hardly any)

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:24 pm
by ArabianArrow
Tensu wrote:all spells are fine except for ss and defood cuz there's no ways to prevent them (or hardly any)


Food can prevent defood (Y)

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:27 pm
by Tensu
ArabianArrow wrote:
Tensu wrote:all spells are fine except for ss and defood cuz there's no ways to prevent them (or hardly any)


Food can prevent defood (Y)


i meant to use preventing as smt u can do so it doesnt work on u for that time like sfd blocking of slow for example

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:00 pm
by pepex
LadyPhoenix wrote:This conversation is in just about every single thread... let's compile and centralize it into a brainstorm session as to if they need to be change and if they do, how to change them? Add suggestions for things already on the list or new spells/skills to add to the list

Abusable/OP Spells/skills:
1.SS
-cool down
-not 100% protection
-cast on self only
-add a "pray"-like effect where skills/spells can't be used for x amount of time after SS fades
-entering pk mode dispels the spell?
2.Stun/stone
-cool down
-NPC bought languid potions
-more counter stun skills/spells
remove plz wiz, slow already do the job of making others easier to target.
5.divine curse
-cool down
-potions to counter effect
remake it, make it double the cost of cp/divine/mana of skills/spells, it will be a usefull curse without being gay.
6.defood
-cool down
-more counter defood spells/skills
-lower % of spell/skill so it takes less food
remove
7.Wings
-lower magic resist
-decrease time that the spell lasts
-lower % of damage reduction
i dont see the problem here, uber protection against 1 class while weak vs the rest
8.PFM
-decease time that spell lasts


in red

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:02 pm
by pepex
LadyPhoenix wrote:This conversation is in just about every single thread... let's compile and centralize it into a brainstorm session as to if they need to be change and if they do, how to change them? Add suggestions for things already on the list or new spells/skills to add to the list

Abusable/OP Spells/skills:
1.SS
-cool down
-not 100% protection
-cast on self only
-add a "pray"-like effect where skills/spells can't be used for x amount of time after SS fades
-entering pk mode dispels the spell?
2.Stun/stone
-cool down
-NPC bought languid potions
-more counter stun skills/spells
remove plz wiz, slow already do the job of making others easier to target.
5.divine curse
-cool down
-potions to counter effect
remake it, make it double the cost of cp/divine/mana of skills/spells, it will be a usefull curse without being gay.
6.defood
-cool down
-more counter defood spells/skills
-lower % of spell/skill so it takes less food
remove
7.Wings
-lower magic resist
-decrease time that the spell lasts
-lower % of damage reduction
i dont see the problem here, uber protection against 1 class while weak vs the rest
8.PFM
-decease time that spell lasts


in red

Re: Abusable Spells/Skills that ruin PvP

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:36 pm
by AshenVex
SS: Keep it the way it is, but make it unusable on enemies, or only self-castable to prevent things like 10 people hitting a stone SSed and only one warrior/archer to pierce all of them.
Defood: Lower the % food lowered/put a % chance to lower food.
Stun/Stone: Maybe NPC bought languid potions, as it seems some mages are dedicating themselves to stunning people, and even a great priest/mage cant keep up sfd/pro forever on a bunch of people at once, also slow/pepsi are good enough for the trick.

I dont see a problem with the rest,
-Wings is great agaisnt mages/priests w/ spells but all the other classes own, its a choice to be made;
-You can still use your last charged skill with divine curse, just get ahead and choose a good one before its cast on you, and dont change it.
-PFM is great agaisnt thieves/archer doing multi's and ex's but thats about it, warriors/priests/other mages can beat them easily, just like wings its a choice to be made;