About Gemstones

[Titus]

Hello Guys!!!

I made some test on nation maps. I think the chance to get a gemstone its close to 1 in 4000 .
I can kill 1000 orcs per hour, so the average time for a gemstone is 4 hours.

The problems are:

1)The map should be empty, if there are people leveling with orcs you cant hunt for gemstones.
2) 4 hours its the average time, u can wait 8 hours or perhaps have 2 gemstones in the same hour, if after 8 hours a noob take your gemstone and run away, you will say : " what the hell im doing here" .
3) Nation maps have low level monsters, so you are not going to increase a single TT % after killing 10000 of them, so the only progress you can dream is to find a gemstone.
4) Monsters can drop a gemstone and perhaps u cant see the item, because of a tree, lag, etc etc etc.
5)The only way u can find a gemstone doing something usefull is at the same time you go for butchering. But the average time here its 1 gemstone every 12 hours of butchering ( if you go alone). If you are a warrior you dont need to butcher, so you will never find casually a gemstone.

I think there is no sence to lost 4 hours to find a gemstone ( if u have luck) without any reward. Server soon will have 2 years, how many doble rares were created? there more than 150 merchants and i think only exist 10 double rares.

I suggest to give the merchants a daily quest, with a gemstone reward.
That quest should be similar to the one requiered to be Merchant ( 10 sards + 8 leef beef + 10M crits for example) .

That quest is not easy, and hard to make it in 1 day. So if merchants works on those items, perhaps he can have a gemstone every 2 days.
The price of those quest items, arent cheaper than the actual gemstone price, and if more people can try to make doble rares, the price of gemstones, sards , leaf and crits, probably will go up.

To make a doble G5 rare , u need 13+ 11 +11= 35 Gemstones. You have a 50% of sucess
To make 2 doble G5 rare u need 18 + 14 + 14 =46 Gemstones. You will have 2 times a 50% chance.

So if go for 46 gemstones, and you find 1 of them every 2 days , you will need 92 days played to get them.(3 mounths dedicating 1-2 hours)
In that time you will use in quest 460 sards + 368 leaf + 460 M crits ( if the quest requiered the example materials)

I think this is a balanced suggestion to make more usefull merchants, and gives the chance to have gesmtones to those who cant pay for them ( with real money). If you work for them, u will be sure you will get them.

Now i wait for your opinions.

[Dragonrajashop]

Would be a good idea. But definitely, DO NOT make it too easy.

Either increase the drop rate or add a difficult quest to obtain them. Preferably, 1 for each gemstone type so you can guarantee you get the one you want if you go through the difficult quest.

Currently, you can get them by:

Drops from monsters (Orcs or Man Scorps)
The 4 Succubus Tooth quest (by chance).
The 6 Balrog Wing quest (by chance).
Enchant Hammer (by chance).
Buying from other players.

[Titus]

I suggest that Vysius players only have the chance to get Vysius gemstones. Same with other nations.
Merchants should trade gemstones to complete the needed number.
The quest i suggest , do you think its too easy?

Thanks for your answer.

[Dragonrajashop]

I suggest that Vysius players only have the chance to get Vysius gemstones. Same with other nations.
Merchants should trade gemstones to complete the needed number.
The quest i suggest , do you think its too easy?

Thanks for your answer.

Yes, I think it's too easy, but I'm not a normal person. I think games should be hard ... not easy.

[Titus]

Can you suggest a quest, please.

[Titus]

Any other suggestion? a GM opinion?

BTW , did someone get a gemstone after the last big server update?

Im asking this because the killing counter in nation maps its not working for me.

[Ipwn_]

There is a quest for them... I'll get the link again

Edit: Here is the link viewtopic.php?f=11&t=642

[Dragonrajashop]

There is a quest for them... I'll get the link again

Edit: Here is the link viewtopic.php?f=11&t=642

But there is no guarantee you will get gemstone. And for the effort, it should be guaranteed.

[Ipwn_]

I completely disagree

[Dragonrajashop]

I completely disagree

.... I expect a statement as to why you disagree if you're going to disagree.