Make Life Drain depend on Orison and Nature Vigor

[muking]

To Toni
Just discuss, If you use light Staff, you need to take off the Shield. (White AC with reduce)
Therefore, the damage of BR hit will increase due to this issue. (the normal (non BR hit) will reduce due to resist lighting)
That's why Screw can kill IMpriest even hes using Light Staff in last man standing event.

[Eleval]

Also, do not forget Priest requires nearly no skill to kill a wizard (F1 + autoclicker as I said) while wizard not only require skill to kill a priest (if you do a one hit BL you won't kill anything) but also require luck on the BR proc. You can do the best BL ever, if you haven't any BR proc, it's same as nothing.

[muking]

Btw, pray is a priest spell to regenerate divine faster than normal. You played Ting so long time and never used once -.-?

Btw, pray is a priest spell to regenerate divine faster than normal. You played Ting so long time and never used once -.-?
ya, I remember this spell now, but I long time no use this game
coz this spell is mainly use when priest are die and ress in town or always use d3 spell
but when i use ting, I seldom face these two situation xd

In Chinese verion DR, the magic name of priest Z is same with the chinese meaning of "pray".

[kit8989]

Since when Eleval reads the same as GMSignPainter?
Also as Fayen said, Wizard need a lot of effort to kill a priest (and the same for the other classes who have to do double ex and such) while it does not cost a single effort to a priest to just do F1 with autoclicker on.

sorry, I will say u overpowerful priest
imagine priest no ca/strike
is totally sm by archer, theif and even warrior
yes, they are just do F1, but i doubt that they can cast a ld succesfully
coz the casting time is dam long
and even priest and warrior can do pespi and posion
priest need to pot when u ex them
they can't rely on ld and save the pot at all

maybe it is depend on high ping or not
for my case, when 2 attackers ex me, My chance for casting a ld is really low
after pespi, the chance will be lower
so, they need ca/strike to control the attackers
if no, they will just ex ex ex and ex
after ca/strike, priest have a chance to ld and save pot ( also, the % of ca/strike is a issue, but not in this topic)
coz the attacker not endlessly attacking
they need to caluate the timing

[Toni]

To Toni
Just discuss, If you use light Staff, you need to take off the Shield. (White AC with reduce)
Therefore, the damage of BR hit will increase due to this issue. (the normal (non BR hit) will reduce due to resist lighting)
That's why Screw can kill IMpriest even hes using Light Staff in last man standing event.

Yes, the white AC goes down, but Priests don't relay on their white AC when they fight against a Wizard, every Priest in this server has a decent Evasion rare (g6 or above), I'm sure you know what that means.

So, the only way you could manage to kill a Priest is when he's under SFD/Pro and uses Light Staff, that's correct.
But guess, there are Priests in this Server, they have such a high sword level, they don't even need to take off their Shield, they just kill you with their sword (average damage above 400), which is more than enough to kill a Wizard, and imagine that Priest uses Lethy/D2 Spell, where is the balance left? I know this looks like I'm hating all the Priest's and I want to benefit my own class, but that's just not true, it has to do with pure logic.

[Eleval]

To Toni
Just discuss, If you use light Staff, you need to take off the Shield. (White AC with reduce)
Therefore, the damage of BR hit will increase due to this issue. (the normal (non BR hit) will reduce due to resist lighting)
That's why Screw can kill IMpriest even hes using Light Staff in last man standing event.

Yes, the white AC goes down, but Priests don't relay on their white AC when they fight against a Wizard, every Priest in this server has a decent Evasion rare (g6 or above), I'm sure you know what that means.

So, the only way you could manage to kill a Priest is when he's under SFD/Pro and uses Light Staff, that's correct.
But guess, there are Priests in this Server, they have such a high sword level, they don't even need to take off their Shield, they just kill you with their sword (average damage above 400), which is more than enough to kill a Wizard, and imagine that Priest uses Lethy/D2 Spell, where is the balance left? I know this looks like I'm hating all the Priest's and I want to benefit my own class, but that's just not true, it has to do with pure logic.

I have seen more ridiculous, velf using knife to lb me after ld ^^

[kit8989]

Also, do not forget Priest requires nearly no skill to kill a wizard (F1 + autoclicker as I said) while wizard not only require skill to kill a priest (if you do a one hit BL you won't kill anything) but also require luck on the BR proc. You can do the best BL ever, if you haven't any BR proc, it's same as nothing.

i agree with u
priest is easy to kill a wiz compare to wiz killing a priest

I have a suggestion, I remember that a rares called "blood" is exist in the past dr server and New raja too
only one wizard in new raja can have 4xxxx or even 5xxxx hp ( coz he get the blood rares)
but this rares is cancel due to overpowerful
so gm can consider this rares or make the "life" rares more useful (+hp rares)

anyway, no matter neuf ld or not, wiz will always be the victem of ld, unless "blood rares" or make the change need ld + 2 hits...
unless u reduce hugely of ld, otherwise a light reduce may be no differences

[Toni]

I never cryed about LD stealing all my HP. I just complain that it's 10 times harder for me, than for a Priest.
So I think this discussion leaded us to one point, LD should stay the way it is (since it's the priests only weapon), but there needs to be a Nerf in Priests protection Spells. They reflect way too much damage, so if they wouldn't reflect so much damage, it would be a step forward into balacing this.

[Thomas]

Where were people when i was telling this 1,5years ago, i think its too late to change this now.
Also this is not the only thing in dr PVP that is out of balance!!!

[kit8989]

I never cryed about LD stealing all my HP. I just complain that it's 10 times harder for me, than for a Priest.
So I think this discussion leaded us to one point, LD should stay the way it is (since it's the priests only weapon), but there needs to be a Nerf in Priests protection Spells. They reflect way too much damage, so if they wouldn't reflect so much damage, it would be a step forward into balacing this.

+ 1 So I think this discussion leaded us to one point, LD should stay the way it is

btw, I hv a out topic question, does the bl setting have many change??
coz i hv stop playing dr for few month, after I come back to play this month
I feel bl hv a higher damage than before

anyway, I restate my point..
I can have chance to kill priest when they use pro, sfd and lethy, not wing (g5-g6 br rares)
but, in mass pking, i doubt who will use wing..