Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby Tensu » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:54 pm

Noeyesee wrote:elvawien you will need more experience in this game before making any kind of statement.

Fact are: Warrior (if not strike/counter build), archer, thief will ALWAYS need Z if they want to have any chance vs priest and mage. Even with a z, archer, thief and warrior have a bad time to kill these class. Z only make thing fair, so yeah, they could easly had a z pills on mall.


or they could make friends to Z them on this mmorpg... if u wanne play by ureself, there's enough offline games i know.
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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby elvawien » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:16 pm

Fact are: Warrior (if not strike/counter build), archer, thief will ALWAYS need Z if they want to have any chance vs priest and mage. Even with a z, archer, thief and warrior have a bad time to kill these class. Z only make thing fair, so yeah, they could easly had a z pills on mall.


Sorry but seems i got more experience than you if you got problems killing a wizz after d1 lol and i am not alone on this opinion(check viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1642) .. cause priest isnt half bad i a agree to that lol and never said he is bad in pvp...

elvawien you will need more experience in this game before making any kind of statement.
Before saying such words tell me in what way is your experience any better than mine or any others that think the same way as me? Gonna tell how pro you are now ? Feel bossy cause you have 600+ posts and me 20 lol ? Jeez grow up...And believe me this is not my first dr server i play lol ... dont pick on my experience ... and yes we still need a poll here :P
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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby ArabianArrow » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:31 pm

Capes are already a must-buy item to compete. We don't want another must-buy T_T

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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby Elmy » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:55 pm

How would this be a must-buy?
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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby ArabianArrow » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:58 pm

Elmy wrote:How would this be a must-buy?


When you're fighting a group of melee chars. Once the Zerk Pill is popped, it's GAME OVER. Melee situations WILL happen, therefore a pill is NEEDED if you plan on living. :|

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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby Elmy » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:07 pm

ArabianArrow wrote:
Elmy wrote:How would this be a must-buy?


When you're fighting a group of melee chars. Once the Zerk Pill is popped, it's GAME OVER. Melee situations WILL happen, therefore a pill is NEEDED if you plan on living. :|


I don't see how doing more damage is going to help me live. It'll make it easier for me to kill them, yes... It'll allow me to not play perfectly and get lucky sometimes by only hitting half an X and getting the kill... If that's how you are interpreting helping you live.

It's not unrealistic for someone without Z to kill someone with Z (In terms of archer / thief situations). In fact, I would say it's common place. I doubt anyone can deny that.

I would say that calling a enchant weapon pill a 'must need' is a very far cry from the reality of things. Anyway... Like I said, it shouldn't work like a pill, it should be more like a CP potion. Charges and obviously the duration isn't forever.

On the other hand, not having Z against a good priest / wiz that know what they are doing makes it nearly impossible to kill them. No, I don't care about how good you are or your experience, Elvawien. In some cases, NOT having Z 'literally' makes it impossible to kill those classes, while having it only gives you a decent chance at it, if you pull everything off well. I'm also amused at how much you are downplaying CP potions. Comparing a CP potion to CP recharge skill and CHA... lol.


Edit; Also, Sakuya Izayoi is right about the party EXP system. I'm sort of surprised some people are still not educated of it, especially you LP. It's one of the reasons I actually like DR's party system. One of the few games where partying is actually worth it while leveling up.
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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby elvawien » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:51 pm

Elmy .. neither i care about urs lol ...every one has his own point of view and we want to make game more enjoyable for all right?? Well dunno about others but i said all i had to say not gonna argue anymore and no need to be rude ... if its gonna be implemented i bet its not like whole server gonna leave lol but i suggest we just all vote yes/no ... dont you think ? Of course GMs have the last word..
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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby ArabianArrow » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:04 pm

Elmy wrote:
ArabianArrow wrote:
Elmy wrote:How would this be a must-buy?


When you're fighting a group of melee chars. Once the Zerk Pill is popped, it's GAME OVER. Melee situations WILL happen, therefore a pill is NEEDED if you plan on living. :|


I don't see how doing more damage is going to help me live. It'll make it easier for me to kill them, yes... It'll allow me to not play perfectly and get lucky sometimes by only hitting half an X and getting the kill... If that's how you are interpreting helping you live.

It's not unrealistic for someone without Z to kill someone with Z (In terms of archer / thief situations). In fact, I would say it's common place. I doubt anyone can deny that..


I don't understand what you're getting at. First you say you don't see it helping you live, then you say it will. Then you continue by saying it's not a MUST-ITEM after you clearly stated 2 scenarios on how much it'll affect the PK balance.

"Only the strong survive." The weak will die. Zerk = stronger (do you disagree?). Hence, the zerked character will most likely survive, as he is the 'stronger' character without a doubt.

It's not unrealistic for someone without a cape to kill someone with a cape too, YET the majority of people here have concluded that a cape is a MUST in order to compete in this server. I doubt anyone can deny that..

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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby Elmy » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:12 pm

Well in the case of capes, I'd say it's more to counteract the AC cape. Trying to kill someone with an AC cape without an Atk cape makes it considerably harder. I don't know about 'must'. But it does make it harder. I personally didn't have a cape for the longest time, but getting an AC one made things so, so much easier.

Pulling random quotes from random people doesn't help your point. Especially since it's not necessarily true. You split my argument apart here since the whole "Not having Z is not uncommon to kill people with Z" also applies to that whole weak vs strong thing. My wiz last server was weak to shit but still managed to kill characters that would have been considered 'stronger'.

Regarding the scenarios I provided, I was just imagining what your side of that argument could be. I still don't think it's that big of a deal. There's tons of items that affect the PK balance in the mall, whether one wants to believe it or not. But a consumable item that goes away on death I would say is the least of one's worries. Especially since getting z itself isn't exactly the most difficult thing in the world.

I'm more looking at it from a soloing while leveling up perspective. Or just leveling without a wiz / priest. It might not matter to you guys so much that have a like 40 person guild, but for the rest of the server that don't have the benefit of always having someone around, that affects it.
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Re: Enchant weapon or Power pray pills

Postby ArabianArrow » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:28 pm

elvawien wrote:i suggest we just all vote yes/no


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