Remove Dark Blade from Thief and change defood

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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby ArabianArrow » Wed May 26, 2010 7:01 am

Tensu wrote:dont underestimate the power over converting armor (ac drop) cuz it can be realy pwoerfull, to bad it doesnt work with defence spells on tho, that's the only bitchy part about it.


If an archer's pierce worked like a warrior's then your statement would be true. And I'm talking about the damage that pierces through SS.

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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby täisdibla » Wed May 26, 2010 9:57 am

Dark_Assassin wrote:then use a blue pot when they switched back


And they will do it again, and again and again :D that's why I said "unless you have infite speed recovery pots" in my first post.

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LadyPhoenix wrote:I rather had defood be removed from thief since that can be used with a knife


I partially agree with you, don't remove it from thief but make it for melee weapons only, so thief can still defood, but they have to use pike or something. Shall I add this to the current 1st post or make a new thread? :D

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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby Tensu » Wed May 26, 2010 10:19 am

ArabianArrow wrote:
Tensu wrote:dont underestimate the power over converting armor (ac drop) cuz it can be realy pwoerfull, to bad it doesnt work with defence spells on tho, that's the only bitchy part about it.


If an archer's pierce worked like a warrior's then your statement would be true. And I'm talking about the damage that pierces through SS.


true, but it does however increase dmg on none defensive buffed chars wich normal warrior pierce skill doesnt.
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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby täisdibla » Wed May 26, 2010 11:50 am

Tensu wrote:
ArabianArrow wrote:
Tensu wrote:dont underestimate the power over converting armor (ac drop) cuz it can be realy pwoerfull, to bad it doesnt work with defence spells on tho, that's the only bitchy part about it.


If an archer's pierce worked like a warrior's then your statement would be true. And I'm talking about the damage that pierces through SS.


true, but it does however increase dmg on none defensive buffed chars wich normal warrior pierce skill doesnt.


But that's the whole purpose of using the skill, against PFM and SS only.

edit: Please don't turn this into more of an archer thread than it already is.

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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby Tensu » Wed May 26, 2010 2:33 pm

täisdibla wrote:
Tensu wrote:
ArabianArrow wrote:
If an archer's pierce worked like a warrior's then your statement would be true. And I'm talking about the damage that pierces through SS.


true, but it does however increase dmg on none defensive buffed chars wich normal warrior pierce skill doesnt.


But that's the whole purpose of using the skill, against PFM and SS only.



if U choose not to fully use the skill it isnt a server side problem but then it's ur fault for not fully using the skill.
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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby täisdibla » Wed May 26, 2010 4:36 pm

Tensu wrote:if U choose not to fully use the skill it isnt a server side problem but then it's ur fault for not fully using the skill.


Since when is this an archer discussion? And one must be out of their mind to select AC drop over multi when the enemy has no buff or has SFD.
While we are at it lets say it's each archer's fault we do not make full use of fleet missile, I mean the skill is so great!

Anyway you have said nothing about my suggestion so far, just blabbered about AC drop, can I please have a proper post wherer and why you like/dislike it? If you comment more about AC drop I'm just gonna sigh and ignore you..

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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby Tensu » Wed May 26, 2010 4:51 pm

täisdibla wrote:
Tensu wrote:if U choose not to fully use the skill it isnt a server side problem but then it's ur fault for not fully using the skill.


Since when is this an archer discussion? And one must be out of their mind to select AC drop over multi when the enemy has no buff or has SFD.
While we are at it lets say it's each archer's fault we do not make full use of fleet missile, I mean the skill is so great!

Anyway you have said nothing about my suggestion so far, just blabbered about AC drop, can I please have a proper post wherer and why you like/dislike it? If you comment more about AC drop I'm just gonna sigh and ignore you..


u're the one who mentioned it in ur first post, so y cant i continiou on your first post... and if archer has distance and force instead of only force, ac drop can be a first choice of skill when it comes down to 1 or 2 hit killing chars. y would u choose to go multi where the dmg is lower and might need more then 3 hits of it to hv a succesfull kill

i dont mind defood getting nerfed down cuz it's just a gay skill but y should thiefs hv slow taken away from them? thiefs are more of a defensive class then a attack class at some points, so y should they be able to be support defensive class?

btw, u just said u want my oppinion whetter it's a like or dislike of ur suggestion, but last time i disliked ur suggestion (i dislike most of ur suggestions cuz most of them arent fully thought trough) u went besserk saying i wasnt supposed to post my oppinion for whatever the reason might hv been.
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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby täisdibla » Wed May 26, 2010 5:45 pm

Tensu wrote:
täisdibla wrote:
Tensu wrote:if U choose not to fully use the skill it isnt a server side problem but then it's ur fault for not fully using the skill.


Since when is this an archer discussion? And one must be out of their mind to select AC drop over multi when the enemy has no buff or has SFD.
While we are at it lets say it's each archer's fault we do not make full use of fleet missile, I mean the skill is so great!

Anyway you have said nothing about my suggestion so far, just blabbered about AC drop, can I please have a proper post wherer and why you like/dislike it? If you comment more about AC drop I'm just gonna sigh and ignore you..


u're the one who mentioned it in ur first post, so y cant i continiou on your first post... and if archer has distance and force instead of only force, ac drop can be a first choice of skill when it comes down to 1 or 2 hit killing chars. y would u choose to go multi where the dmg is lower and might need more then 3 hits of it to hv a succesfull kill

i dont mind defood getting nerfed down cuz it's just a gay skill but y should thiefs hv slow taken away from them? thiefs are more of a defensive class then a attack class at some points, so y should they be able to be support defensive class?

btw, u just said u want my oppinion whetter it's a like or dislike of ur suggestion, but last time i disliked ur suggestion (i dislike most of ur suggestions cuz most of them arent fully thought trough) u went besserk saying i wasnt supposed to post my oppinion for whatever the reason might hv been.


Thieves won't have slow taken from them, they will still have 1 slow skill left. But why should they have 2? They are already extremely well rounded, why give them 2 different slows to use one when the other isn't working.

If someone truly decides to go distant + force on archer for AC drop, I guess it can work in some ways, but imo it would be a waste of rare slots ( well the only good thing I can think of is using a full legends set and AC drop )

Also which suggestion are you referring to? Can you link it via reply or PM please? I cannot find it. If you mean the trigger mage symbol change suggestion then in there you just failed, nothing opinion wise there :|

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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby Dark_Assassin » Thu May 27, 2010 1:19 am

täisdibla wrote:
And they will do it again, and again and again :D that's why I said "unless you have infite speed recovery pots" in my first post.


thats exactly the point, making them waste time, and switchign back, and im sorry but if you cannot kill them after youve made them switch more than twice, then.. :scis:
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Re: Remove Dark Blade from Thief

Postby Shayne » Thu May 27, 2010 5:29 am

Dark_Assassin wrote:
täisdibla wrote:
And they will do it again, and again and again :D that's why I said "unless you have infite speed recovery pots" in my first post.


thats exactly the point, making them waste time, and switchign back, and im sorry but if you cannot kill them after youve made them switch more than twice, then.. :scis:

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