Lightning Shock bug

[täisdibla]

The skill damage of converting armor is forced to be reduced it to normal damage, this skill has changed to drop the SS and White ac from shield. Is enuff good already so if it was modified to give archers a support role or a way to reduce opponents AC then its obvious this damage should be reduced.
This insane damage was dealed because needed to pierce SS or any shield spell, since now its possible to ignore SS after this stacks of course its FORCED to deal normal damage .. Even GMSignPainter said he was going to modify it.

It's possible to block ignoring SS by using SFD/lethy+SS at times, resulting in very low damage or all misses.

[sillon]

lets talk with property, here mostly high levels with almost or full tactics, also max force +distant. Also people using always stroke and agility candles, not hard to make or buy at merchant board.
Dont lie, this skill doesnt deal low damage.

[Eleval]

lets talk with property, here mostly high levels with almost or full tactics, also max force +distant. Also people using always stroke and agility candles, not hard to make or buy at merchant board.
Dont lie, this skill doesnt deal low damage.

For once I can agree with you, when I'm on my D4 Wizard and I use Smart Set + AC or Agility Candle, I still can get killed in 2 hits by a D2 Archer with correct TT just by using Converting Armor and Distant, 17k per hit (And of course, I have twinkle star on me and G20 AC).
While a Full xfire won't kill me (even with my AC droped).

[Dragonrajashop]

lets talk with property, here mostly high levels with almost or full tactics, also max force +distant. Also people using always stroke and agility candles, not hard to make or buy at merchant board.
Dont lie, this skill doesnt deal low damage.

For once I can agree with you, when I'm on my D4 Wizard and I use Smart Set + AC or Agility Candle, I still can get killed in 2 hits by a D2 Archer with correct TT just by using Converting Armor and Distant, 17k per hit (And of course, I have twinkle star on me and G20 AC).
While a Full xfire won't kill me (even with my AC droped).

They can killed pretty easily as well. They choose archer for the higher damage rather than taking the extra AC from shield choosing thief.

[Thomas]

lets talk with property, here mostly high levels with almost or full tactics, also max force +distant. Also people using always stroke and agility candles, not hard to make or buy at merchant board.
Dont lie, this skill doesnt deal low damage.

For once I can agree with you, when I'm on my D4 Wizard and I use Smart Set + AC or Agility Candle, I still can get killed in 2 hits by a D2 Archer with correct TT just by using Converting Armor and Distant, 17k per hit (And of course, I have twinkle star on me and G20 AC).
While a Full xfire won't kill me (even with my AC droped).

Dont forget to add you can 1fb that archer with less effort.
You are killed by max tt+full force+lg.. it makes no difference if it is d2 or d4 but the difference is that you will kill d4 50% chance and d2 99% chance with Firebird
Using LG bow means he has 38k hp, no fire resist and less than max endu (archer needs more stats than thief) and 60-100ac depending on his dual symbol.
Also it gives archer chance to kill wizard with DS ....

[Eleval]

Well imo since it already drops the AC, it shouldn't deal more damage than a normal attack.

[lemonbone]

Well imo since it already drops the AC, it shouldn't deal more damage than a normal attack.

it does more dmg than normal attack even for the 1st hit.

[Eleval]

Well imo since it already drops the AC, it shouldn't deal more damage than a normal attack.

it does more dmg than normal attack even for the 1st hit.

Ya I know, that's why I tell it should do normal damages instead of the damages it does now.

[Thomas]

Ya I know, that's why I tell it should do normal damages instead of the damages it does now.

have you tried how easy it is to evade it when archer is using distant .. 70% of time its missed either to dodge or smart.
Since wizard has fastest movement speed in the game you just need to step 2step sideway even under pepsi can do that.
And dont forget DS, you mean DS wizard should remain impossible for archer to kill and same time he should still be able to 1bl/1fb kill that archer?

Right now this skill exactly defines archer as we have commonly gotten used to see - discard all defence in order to hit fatal damage.
Just test and see how much g20dist g20force (vigilante g8g8force g8dist+g8lg+symbol) 200tt thief does with critical hiding... remove that too?
I would onlyfind this reasonable if the amount AC dropped were higher or Fleet missile would be a better skill unlike bugged crap it is now.

[sillon]

lets talk with property, here mostly high levels with almost or full tactics, also max force +distant. Also people using always stroke and agility candles, not hard to make or buy at merchant board.
Dont lie, this skill doesnt deal low damage.

For once I can agree with you, when I'm on my D4 Wizard and I use Smart Set + AC or Agility Candle, I still can get killed in 2 hits by a D2 Archer with correct TT just by using Converting Armor and Distant, 17k per hit (And of course, I have twinkle star on me and G20 AC).
While a Full xfire won't kill me (even with my AC droped).

+1, We not enemies, at least I dont feel like we should because we are it InGame, this is a place to discuss what we think about gameplay
I tested this and isnt hard to kill an enemy with this skill. Thomas keep saying this is easy to evade but in fact this isnt easy.
In the middle of PK, when you notice an archer used this skill on you, you are already dead. I tested on SpyRoS, also D4 Wizard with G20 AC and get pwned alot by this. Archer can easily hit you 2 or 3 times before you have time to do anything because hits go so fast, even if you are an experienced archer you know how to hit then cast converting when your arrow is flying so you hit twice and 3 times also in 1 second.
This change made on archer class was made to give them a support job, not to give an OP skill coz they get killed easy by wizard spells.
This Converting Armor Should drop ac, but his nature DMG should be reduced because this cannot be prevented to used.
To thomas or any other Archer, with all my respect, you could go hard work for ur anti magic potions if you do fear about wizards. This dont give you any right to insist on keep this insane damage on your archers. As this was implemented not so far ago, also its on a BETA period where we testing how it works, everyone noticed already about this is OP.