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109hk
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Triggermage symbol

Postby 109hk » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:33 pm

Hi guys and GM team,
my in game name is 109,
the only active D4 Triggermage in this server.
Currently we only allow Triggermage to use wizzard magic,
so I have to stick with it in order to keep my play style,
but the symbol gives Evasion is totally useless for me since I can learn dispel.
I suggest to change it to MV&Force, so make use of it,
since ice arrow attack benifits from MV.
OR change back so every dual could learn magic.
The ice arrow is also much slower than before,
thats why no one really plays it,
would be great if we change it back,
Im playing this build for years and I love it so much,
I hope to see more Triggermage in this server,
please take it into consideration,
thanks!

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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby mofomaycry » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:45 pm

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SimpleStupid
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby SimpleStupid » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:06 pm

100% Agree. Eva is useless for this dual.
Unpopalar dual classes should be encouraged, people dont play it simply because they are weak. Triggermage definitely needs some love.
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby e8180kimo » Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:46 am

SimpleStupid wrote:100% Agree. Eva is useless for this dual.
Unpopalar dual classes should be encouraged, people dont play it simply because they are weak. Triggermage definitely needs some love.


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bminickw
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby bminickw » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:40 pm

109hk wrote:Hi guys and GM team,
my in game name is 109,
the only active D4 Triggermage in this server.
Currently we only allow Triggermage to use wizzard magic,
so I have to stick with it in order to keep my play style,
but the symbol gives Evasion is totally useless for me since I can learn dispel.
I suggest to change it to MV&Force, so make use of it,
since ice arrow attack benifits from MV.
OR change back so every dual could learn magic.
The ice arrow is also much slower than before,
thats why no one really plays it,
would be great if we change it back,
Im playing this build for years and I love it so much,
I hope to see more Triggermage in this server,
please take it into consideration,
thanks!


In my opinion, MV would make it more useless.

Has ice arrow really changed? I don't think anything has changed on that here.
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SimpleStupid
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby SimpleStupid » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:22 pm

MV increase ice/fire arrow damage, the only reason archer dual wiz is to use wiz magic. Evasion is 100% useless how could anything worse than this...
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luxibb
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby luxibb » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:49 pm

is not 100% useless tho
because evasion also work while you use dispel
with 129 WS you have around 700 mana do you think that can block a 38% br rate fb :)?
you can say add more WS,but i did the math alit the point is kinda short if you use D3 items

i tested not even full mv 2 +96wizard dmg item
and i break the dispel in 3 try ( full mana every try)
in that case if your not full mana it will 100% break it..
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SimpleStupid
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby SimpleStupid » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:18 pm

luxibb wrote:is not 100% useless tho
because evasion also work while you use dispel
with 129 WS you have around 700 mana do you think that can block a 38% br rate fb :)?
you can say add more WS,but i did the math alit the point is kinda short if you use D3 items

i tested not even full mv 2 +96wizard dmg item
and i break the dispel in 3 try ( full mana every try)
in that case if your not full mana it will 100% break it..


Dispel works on spell HITS regardless how much MV and BR you have :mrgreen:

683 MP total, each fb hit got you 161MP, you have the point if you dont pot the 2nd or 3rd FB your dispel will most likely got broke.
I pot incoming spell damage on my wiz if im not full mana as well, dont you? Evasion on Wiz? :oops:
Conclusion the evasion symbol on Triggermage still useless.
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bminickw
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby bminickw » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:43 pm

SimpleStupid wrote:
luxibb wrote:is not 100% useless tho
because evasion also work while you use dispel
with 129 WS you have around 700 mana do you think that can block a 38% br rate fb :)?
you can say add more WS,but i did the math alit the point is kinda short if you use D3 items

i tested not even full mv 2 +96wizard dmg item
and i break the dispel in 3 try ( full mana every try)
in that case if your not full mana it will 100% break it..


Dispel works on spell HITS regardless how much MV and BR you have :mrgreen:

683 MP total, each fb hit got you 161MP, you have the point if you dont pot the 2nd or 3rd FB your dispel will most likely got broke.
I pot incoming spell damage on my wiz if im not full mana as well, dont you? Evasion on Wiz? :oops:
Conclusion the evasion symbol on Triggermage still useless.


Doesn't BR hits take more mana away? It's based on damage how much MP is taken. If you avoid the damage, mana is not taken away right?
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luxibb
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Re: Triggermage symbol

Postby luxibb » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:13 am

yea br or normal hits take the same mana
yea if it eva no mana taken

so you compare a wiz's mana pool to a archer ?
it just like a priest LD a warrior he dont have to pot..
but he LD a wizard..you MUST pot..
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