Saint symbol for priest

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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby mofomaycry » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:22 pm

useful is the key here :hmpf:
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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby mewraja » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:46 pm

Maybe replace the NV to life just like the rest of other classes as last symbol?

Lord Knight : Hardest & Life
Swash Buckler : Force & Critical
Warmaster -: Desire & Accuracy
Bladesinger : Life & Evasion
Paladin : Life & Resist All

Corsair : Hardest & Distant
Nighthawk : Distant & Critical
Vigilance : Force & Distant
Toreador : Life & Evasion
Revenant : Life & Resist All

Conqueror : Hardest & Force
Desperado : Force & Distant
Hawkeye : Force & Critical
Triggermage : Life & Evasion
Warsaint : Life & Resist All

Templar : AC & Life
Fallen : Evasion & Speed
Avenger : Smart & Speed
Saint : Wise & Nature Vigor

Warlock : AC & Life
Tzigane : Smart & Speed
Archmage : Magic Vigor & Speed
Grand Wizard : Basic Resist & Life

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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby bminickw » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:58 pm

mewraja wrote:Maybe replace the NV to life just like the rest of other classes as last symbol?

Lord Knight : Hardest & Life
Swash Buckler : Force & Critical
Warmaster -: Desire & Accuracy
Bladesinger : Life & Evasion
Paladin : Life & Resist All

Corsair : Hardest & Distant
Nighthawk : Distant & Critical
Vigilance : Force & Distant
Toreador : Life & Evasion
Revenant : Life & Resist All

Conqueror : Hardest & Force
Desperado : Force & Distant
Hawkeye : Force & Critical
Triggermage : Life & Evasion
Warsaint : Life & Resist All

Templar : AC & Life
Fallen : Evasion & Speed
Avenger : Smart & Speed
Saint : Wise & Nature Vigor

Warlock : AC & Life
Tzigane : Smart & Speed
Archmage : Magic Vigor & Speed
Grand Wizard : Basic Resist & Life


Not a bad idea. Or at least change it to Basic Resist if anything...
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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby SimpleStupid » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:12 pm

mewraja wrote:Maybe replace the NV to life just like the rest of other classes as last symbol?

Nope, I like it as NV.
Currently priest is too comfort behind high AC CA waitting, spamming LD, simply OP and boring. And have to be rebalanced, probably nerf LD to NV/orison base instead of CON, the team is afraid of too much impact to priest game play without giving other options.
Saint offers a styled build, like shadow priest in wow, although I think most priest offensuve spells suck but at least its getting there.
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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby SimpleStupid » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:14 pm

bminickw wrote:Or at least change it to Basic Resist if anything...

Yea, BR makes sense as well.
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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby mewraja » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:31 pm

Not sure about you guys, but i think offensive spell priest isn't going to work competitively in pk scenario.
There's only one spell worth casting and that is the d3 spell, which not only hit randomly on the screen, it doesn't do all that much of a damage compared to wizard's spells.

Sure it does some damage, but at what cost you need to go for the build just to make it sensible?
g10 br, g20 nv, g10 wise? losing all the ac for a fraction of damage that wizards have?

Priest needs to get wise rare just for them be "viable" for spell offensive type, where wizard doesn't need any since int gives faster casting.
even with g10 wise and the g5 red wise, being pepsi'd, i don't think there's a lot of d3 spell casting can go on as melee can properly time their hit to interrupt.

Priest doesn't have increase magic, and no haste (there's one lesser haste effect, at the cost of only having 20% reduced physical damage instead of 40%).
Not sure where u guys get the idea of offensive spell priest (i'm referring for pk scenario).
I think it is an interesting theory, but priest isn't meant for that in pk scenario.
The class lacks of good targeted spell, and casting mechanism.

Then again, just my feedback on the symbol.
I guess we could live with saint symbol being useless after all.
I mean, the very same saint symbol effect has been in live server for very long time already right? no biggie.
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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby bminickw » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:31 pm

SimpleStupid wrote:
mewraja wrote:Maybe replace the NV to life just like the rest of other classes as last symbol?

Nope, I like it as NV.
Currently priest is too comfort behind high AC CA waitting, spamming LD, simply OP and boring. And have to be rebalanced, probably nerf LD to NV/orison base instead of CON, the team is afraid of too much impact to priest game play without giving other options.
Saint offers a styled build, like shadow priest in wow, although I think most priest offensuve spells suck but at least its getting there.


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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby bminickw » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:36 pm

mewraja wrote:Not sure about you guys, but i think offensive spell priest isn't going to work competitively in pk scenario.
There's only one spell worth casting and that is the d3 spell, which not only hit randomly on the screen, it doesn't do all that much of a damage compared to wizard's spells.

Sure it does some damage, but at what cost you need to go for the build just to make it sensible?
g10 br, g20 nv, g10 wise? losing all the ac for a fraction of damage that wizards have?

Priest needs to get wise rare just for them be "viable" for spell offensive type, where wizard doesn't need any since int gives faster casting.
even with g10 wise and the g5 red wise, being pepsi'd, i don't think there's a lot of d3 spell casting can go on as melee can properly time their hit to interrupt.

Priest doesn't have increase magic, and no haste (there's one lesser haste effect, at the cost of only having 20% reduced physical damage instead of 40%).
Not sure where u guys get the idea of offensive spell priest (i'm referring for pk scenario).
I think it is an interesting theory, but priest isn't meant for that in pk scenario.
The class lacks of good targeted spell, and casting mechanism.

Then again, just my feedback on the symbol.
I guess we could live with saint symbol being useless after all.
I mean, the very same saint symbol effect has been in live server for very long time already right? no biggie.


I agree with this 100%.

I don't want to be a shadowpriest '-_- The only advantage over being a mage would be the resurrection spell, nothing else.
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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby SimpleStupid » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:53 pm

You can compare priest vs wiz all day long I dont mind, both of them have PRO abd CON.
The concept I stated is clear, and could be improved, better and better, like you said good targeted spell, and casting mechanism, not just of copy of what we already have now.
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Re: Saint symbol for priest

Postby mewraja » Wed May 03, 2017 2:22 pm

Up.

Need to change Saint symbol from nature vigor to something else.
I propose change to Life similar to other classes.
Let's be honest and real.
NV doesn't bring anything to priest past d1 until end game.


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