how much RE should sardonyx cost,whenplayer deal with player

[Silencer]

1. I've never mined in Baratan so I don't know how it's set up but why can't you stand next to a Vys miner and just pick up the diamonds while he mines? He can't pk you because he'll get NK (if he does you can pk back). That might just piss him off enough to stop doing it.

2. my argument rests in the grounds that places for FAST exp at levels 85-100 are as rare as diamonds. See #1 in reference to PKing.

3. I don't want to wear blue waters and you don't want to level at slow pits. The blue waters was an example that there ARE alternatives.

4. Are there really more Vys miners than Yllse miners in Baratan? How many Yllse check the Baratan mines each day compared to Vys ones? If you're saying it's all luck, then the probability for a yllse miner to get sards is much higher than the probability of a vys getting it. If you find a vys mining your mines, refer to number 1. If you just show up and see empty mines, then how do you know it's not a yllse who mined it?

I still don't see how it's unfair for YLLSE.
Vys: Higher population. can plunder Yllse only
Yllse: medium population. can plunder vys and zyp.
Zyp: low population. can plunder yllse only.

Yllse has access to resources from all 3 nations. Vys only has access to 2 nations. You can't seriously say that Zyp plunders your resources.

Vys: 2 (Access to 2 nations) - 1 (can be plundered by yllse) = 1
Yllse: 3 (access to 3 nations) - 1 (plundered by vys) = 2
Zyp: 2 (Access to 2 nations) - 1 (can be plundered by yllse) = 1

I'm 100% certain Vys doesn't take ALL of your diamonds because I buy Yllse imported diamonds.

1. It's nice if I catch them doing it, then I'd do what you say. Problem is, I see vyseus miners running around in our diamond spawns and they're done by the time I get there. They basically contributed to the emptying out of spawns. It's something I'm not happy about even with our own miners, let alone vyseus people ADDING to our problem.

2. PK them. Simple as that. Different nations are suppose to be at war with each other anyway.

3. Correction: There are FALSE alternatives. The day you make g5+ blue waters because you can't mine diamonds is the day I'll actually believe you think of that as an alternative.

4. It's more of a cumulative effect. That's what you're failing to see. If 100 people are competing for limited resources at any given time, adding another 20 to that makes the situation worse. 100 > 20, but the effect is felt all the same. And that is what's happening in yllse right now. It's the cumulative effect you guys are having on our resources that are pissing off our miners.

5. The problem with this whole argument from your side is that you're turning this into a yllse versus vyseus shit. While our problems with vyseus miners are what shapes our view point on this matter (I'll admit that much), what we are calling for are across the board. On a personal level, I don't go to zypern mines because I think it's stupid to be plundering other nation's resources.

[LadyPhoenix]

1. It's nice if I catch them doing it, then I'd do what you say. Problem is, I see vyseus miners running around in our diamond spawns and they're done by the time I get there. They basically contributed to the emptying out of spawns. It's something I'm not happy about even with our own miners, let alone vyseus people ADDING to our problem.

That's my main problem with the argument. I know some Vys go to yllse to mine but most of the time, they get nothing out of it. The fact is, you don't know if they're "done" or they just showed up and realized that there's no diamonds in yllse either.

PS: those who go to yllse to mine aren't those who are greedy and empty all the diamond spots. They're usually the ones desperate for diamonds to do their daily sard quest or to make rares because the few greedy people in vys mine us out.

You can always do another kind of limit and make it so each char can only mine x number of diamonds a day. That would alleviate the problem of a few people mining all pits.

[Silencer]

1. It's nice if I catch them doing it, then I'd do what you say. Problem is, I see vyseus miners running around in our diamond spawns and they're done by the time I get there. They basically contributed to the emptying out of spawns. It's something I'm not happy about even with our own miners, let alone vyseus people ADDING to our problem.

That's my main problem with the argument. I know some Vys go to yllse to mine but most of the time, they get nothing out of it. The fact is, you don't know if they're "done" or they just showed up and realized that there's no diamonds in yllse either.

PS: those who go to yllse to mine aren't those who are greedy and empty all the diamond spots. They're usually the ones desperate for diamonds to do their daily sard quest or to make rares because the few greedy people in vys mine us out.

You can always do another kind of limit and make it so each char can only mine x number of diamonds a day. That would alleviate the problem of a few people mining all pits.

If they aren't getting any benefits, they wouldn't come to our town. And besides, the new zypern transfer should alleviate some of your problems in vyseus mine. And make that suggestion to GM if you want to -_- I wouldn't mind that as long as I can get some damn diamonds to do jobs. And screw you GMSB!

[GMSignBreaker]

1. It's nice if I catch them doing it, then I'd do what you say. Problem is, I see vyseus miners running around in our diamond spawns and they're done by the time I get there. They basically contributed to the emptying out of spawns. It's something I'm not happy about even with our own miners, let alone vyseus people ADDING to our problem.

That's my main problem with the argument. I know some Vys go to yllse to mine but most of the time, they get nothing out of it. The fact is, you don't know if they're "done" or they just showed up and realized that there's no diamonds in yllse either.

PS: those who go to yllse to mine aren't those who are greedy and empty all the diamond spots. They're usually the ones desperate for diamonds to do their daily sard quest or to make rares because the few greedy people in vys mine us out.

You can always do another kind of limit and make it so each char can only mine x number of diamonds a day. That would alleviate the problem of a few people mining all pits.

If they aren't getting any benefits, they wouldn't come to our town. And besides, the new zypern transfer should alleviate some of your problems in vyseus mine. And make that suggestion to GM if you want to -_- I wouldn't mind that as long as I can get some damn diamonds to do jobs. And screw you GMSB!

Love you too

[Cupid]

implement something like an announcement when the mining pit regenerates.

"A citizen found a mining ground with high level resources in [map]"

or if a player is digging.

"[name of the player] found a mining ground with diamond and topez in [map]"

[Tensu]

implement something like an announcement when the mining pit regenerates.

"A citizen found a mining ground with high level resources in [map]"

or if a player is digging.

"[name of the player] found a mining ground with diamond and topez in [map]"

would be a perfect way to get 10 ppl at 1 mine and start a huge pk amoungst ur own nation... samrt way to go

[Cupid]

implement something like an announcement when the mining pit regenerates.

"A citizen found a mining ground with high level resources in [map]"

or if a player is digging.

"[name of the player] found a mining ground with diamond and topez in [map]"

would be a perfect way to get 10 ppl at 1 mine and start a huge pk amoungst ur own nation... samrt way to go

wouldn't this be fun