Healer's exp [Party exp]

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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby LadyPhoenix » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:33 am

Because that only helps blasters. That still doesn't help those priests that don't hit.

I didn't want to "raise" anything. I wanted to make it even for everyone. Such as lower exp gained for blasters and even it out with exp gained by healers/tanks. This way priests would level tt at the same rate as a wizard or thief too just by putting party exp on spell/weapon. Blaster's tt would probably get slowed down considerably though.
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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby Minipp » Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:57 am

LadyPhoenix wrote:Because that only helps blasters. That still doesn't help those priests that don't hit.

I didn't want to "raise" anything. I wanted to make it even for everyone. Such as lower exp gained for blasters and even it out with exp gained by healers/tanks. This way priests would level tt at the same rate as a wizard or thief too just by putting party exp on spell/weapon. Blaster's tt would probably get slowed down considerably though.


So they can AFK heal and gain everything they want at the same rate as a blaster?

I don't think you guys really understand how experience works.
Faster Kill is Faster Experience. Higher numbers is faster kills. If you have a leecher that isn't doing numbers, you're going to get less experience. How hard is that to understand?

I think you of all people should not be complaining or siding with the leeching experience from priest. You wanted to nerf priest heavily, and by doing this, it did just that. This allows blasters. Archers, Thieves, Warriors, Mages to get higher level than a priest, which was the ultimate reason why priest were so overpowered. You apparently didn't think this through when you chose to side with the whiners. I am a priest myself and I am happy with the experience. Its finally back to normal experience rates like malaysian days (just like how the original Dragon Raja came out to be)

Many players are just spoiled from DR BR and various other servers that gave fast experience rates. Its quite sad how the game has evolved in this big.. macro, afk level, use 2-3-4 different characters at once.

I am done arguing about the experience rates. All you have to do is look at the top 10 list for yourself and see it looks pretty even ..... Sweats, Malakand, Hamsuplu, QoQo......

Unless of course you want Sweats, Malakand, Hamsuplu, Qoqo ... all top 4.... and level 140 already.... Take your pick....

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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby ArabianArrow » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:11 am

Minipp wrote:
ArabianArrow wrote:It's a priest... in most games priests are the healers. Is it really that hard to understand?

Healing repeatedly is NOT afking. I thought you were a man of common sense?


The game really isn't meant to just sit there and macro heal on the tank.

LP brings up a good point and I half agree. But how can you fix this, rather than forcing players to buy pills. Sure, you can raise the experience rates, but then whats the point in that? Why not just make this a high rate server then if everything needs to be so easy. Everybody wants, wants, wants, but never really sit back and say 'ok, thats enough.'

Back to Arabs comment. Which games have you played where healing gives you experience like a blaster. WoW, you dont get experience for healing your party. Risk your life, you dont get the full benefit as a blaster for healing your party. I haven't played very many MMORPGs besides these 3, so I might be in the dark here... Please explain.

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Read my post again. You'll see I'm not saying priest should get faster leaching exp. What I said was that priests are meant to heal, NOT blast. Of course, this was directed at you saying "then blast".

You claim 99% of healers afk, and you claim Sweats afks. How come GMs hasn't banned them yet? Slacking much. :| Once again... no common sense at all in you're statements.

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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby Noeyesee » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:14 am

What about tanker, that need to use smart to survive? Thing are simple:

We need tanker and healer for quicker exp.

If they are disavantage in everything (PvP and PvE) no one will pick that. I wouldn't either.
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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby LadyPhoenix » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:21 am

Minipp wrote:So they can AFK heal and gain everything they want at the same rate as a blaster?


I can afk a blaster too -_- if your argument is based on healers = macro/afk healing so shouldn't gain as much exp, then that's voided.

Also it's not the levels that makes priest OP, it's their lack of need for damage rares. Even on NR when I was D4 with max tt, I still hit 2K on D1 priests with g20 AC while those priests' counter/strike rares hit me pretty hard and they drained about 50% hp from me with ld. Just because you slow down the process, doesn't mean that end-game will be better.
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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby Karvinen » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:44 am

mages have 2 heals why arent they healers? priests have skills to do dmg why cant they be DD? who made them to be healers? u dont see them healng ppl in pvp... they have dmg skills too, make rares for it, the blasting wont be bad xp everyone just chooses to become a healer because its the easiest way

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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby Noeyesee » Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:54 am

Well, other class are more TT dependant then priest.

Of course tt help priest, but other class are more helped by it.
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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby LadyPhoenix » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:01 am

priests are just the best suited for healing since their basic heal can heal almost all characters fully. wizard's heal don't heal as much and have a shorter range. I do make low level wizards heal though.

If a party had to chose between a priest and wiz as blaster and healer, almost every party will chose the wiz to blast and priest to heal just because they're better built that way. The party wants exp and a wiz's 5tile gets that exp more efficiently.
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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby Noeyesee » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:04 am

in my head Wizard is a better healer then priest.

Without rare, indeed.

Mage cast alot faster, and heal for full too.
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Re: Leecher's exp

Postby LadyPhoenix » Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:05 am

yeah but after a while they run out of mana so in the long run, priests are better.
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