Damage Formula

[Titus]

Hi

Someone knows the Damage formula?

If i know my tactics and my weapons, and the enemy AC, how much damage i make him?

[Thomas]

AC Formula - Reduction to physical damage seems to be 300AC = 100% so correspondingly 100 AC decreases 33%, 200AC decreases 66% etc. Defence buff reduces additional %
Would also like to know how the damage itself is calculated...

[Titus]

I made a formula using archer items:

Damage = {( Wepon Damage + 10*GForce) * WeaponTactics * (1+Distance porcent)} % 5

If i have a (bow+arrow) damage = 208 ; No Gforce ; No Distance rares and 127 tt

i will have : Damage = {(208 +0) *127*1}/5 = 5283 Damage

I test it with my char and my damage was 5300 .

When i use G20 Force and G6 distance (29%) the formula say:

Damage = {(208+200)*127*1,29)} /5 = 13368 , i test it and my char have 12900 Damage almost the same.

I didnt test it with Zerk , but the complete formula with Z (40%) should be :

Damage = {( Wepon Damage + 10*GForce) * WeaponTactics * (1+Distance porcent)*(1,4)} % 5

[täisdibla]

3 AC reduces 1% damage as said.

Buffs apply after AC reduction. For example SFD which reduces roughly around 40%:
If you have 0 AC and the enemy attacks you for 10000 physical damage, you will receive only 6000 of it with SFD on.
If you have 120 AC ( 40% ) and no SFD, you will receive 6000 physical damage as well.
If you have 120 AC and SFD on, you will receive 6000 x (100%-40%) = 3600 damage.
So with 210 AC and SFD, 10000 damage will be reduced to a mere 1800 damage.


About Enchant Weapon/Power of Pray for physical attacks and Increase Magic for wizards:
These buffs only increase off WHITE DAMAGE ( weapons, mantle of dragon, celestine etc ) and NOT blue damage ( Force Rares, Magic Vigor Rares ).

For example lets say you have a weapon that gives you 100 white attack power ( like weapons and capes normally do ) and you hit 100, with Enchant Weapon ( which is around +50% ), you will hit 150.
Now lets say you somehow have a weapon that gives you 100 blue attack ( like force rares do ) and you hit 100 without any buff. With Enchant Weapon you will still hit only 100.
It's the exact same thing for blue magic damage ( Magic Vigor Rares ).
^In short, Force rares and Magic Vigor rares do NOT benefit from Enchant Weapon/Power of Pray and Increase Magic.

Even though these buffs do not buff the blue damage of rares, AC and defense buffs still block the extra added damage from damage buffs. In short... If you have g20 force, duel with no buffs rather than Z + SFD, because you will deal more damage. :d

Test all of this out for yourself in game, that will give you the best idea.

About weapons and tactics... I have no clue. I guess it's easiest to test it at 100 TT by equipping weapons with different damage bonuses and then doing that at 200TT as well.

[soya]

how about your dual class symbol? If you have force dual class symbol is that considered white damage? I'm no where close to getting DC just wanted to know/

[SimpleStupid]

Hi there, EW/PoP dont effect on force rares, but Increase Magic DOES effects on MV rares.

[SimpleStupid]

Symbol effect counts as blue effects.

[Thomas]

I think that something is off... for example im using Pike 1-3 damage and piercing tt is 100... according to your formula i should do 60 damage but actually it is between 750-770

Using zero force, bow 208 damage with 100tt i do around 4330..4380 damage. if we calculate with the formula we get 4160 witch is pretty close.
Now after adding g7 force (70 damage) i deal 5580...5640 when calculated it is 5560 (also pretty close)

But if we go a bit higher we see deviation...
Weapon damage 230+48 (mantle) +215 from force items with 146tt = 14395(actual damage actually around 13000-13200)

[Titus]

Looks like we need to add something in low tactis or low wepons... and we need to correct a bit high wepons and tt.

Remember that mantle gives 30-48 damage , not always 48 and weapons have a deviation too. But i igree that at high damage the formula gives + diference from reality.

I will Test what Taisdibla said about Z . Simple Stupid said wizard can buff their rares... why this diference from hand weapons?

Any other ideas?