Symbol Rework

[proeel]

This should be the next big project, anyone has any ideas to share?
which to improve, what to add, and what to remove

[GMSignPainter]

Moved to Suggestions.

[SimpleStupid]

Looking forward to it.
I wish people would like to actually dual other class besides warrior one, like to see a buff for other duals.
Also certain 2nd symbol effects are mostly useless, might need a hotfix.

[proeel]

Lord Knight -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Swash Buckler -> 12% Critical 10 Speed
Warmaster -> AC25 21% Smart
Bladesinger -> AC25 21% Eva
Paladin -> AC25 Resist all 24

Corsair -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Nighthawk -> 21% Smart 12% critical
Vigilance -> 40 AP 21% Distant
Toreador -> AC25 21% Eva
Revenant -> AC25 Resist all 24

Conqueror -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Desperado -> 40 AP 21% Distant
Hawkeye -> 21% smart 12% Critical
Triggermage -> AC25 G8 BR (20%)
Warsaint -> AC25 Resist all 24

Templar -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Fallen -> 21% Smart Speed 10
Avenger -> 21% Eva Speed 10
Saint -> 19% Wise G8 BR (20%)

Warlock -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Tzigane -> 21% Smart Speed 10
Archmage -> G4 HP (1974) Speed 10
Grand Wizard -> G4 BR (12%) G4 MV (48)

Some ideas I have since the update notes was out...
Cant really make it all equal but I think all of them have similar value to dual warrior symbols (AC40)

Few points I want to point out...

- I dont think warrior should have any AP in its symbol as they have the highest damage already
- AP + Critical is too strong in my opinion for all class
- Triggermage: Mainly, I hope in D5, We are able to see some D5 archer with dispel spell using ice/fire arrow (reason for BR)
- Saint: Just for priest players that like to blast d3 spell around... may be fun... who knows.

Please share what your own opinion on the symbol effects should be... Doesn't hurt to open discussion

[Metalarg]

hey its not bad!

good ideas.

PD: plz remove the shit of accuracy from warlock !!!! most useless as hell that rare on a wiz

[SimpleStupid]

Lord Knight -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Swash Buckler -> 12% Critical 20 Speed
Warmaster -> 12% Critical 24%Accuracy
Bladesinger -> AC25 21% Eva
Paladin -> AC25 Resist all 12

Corsair -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Nighthawk -> 21% distant 12% critical 
Vigilance ->  40AP 24%Accuracy
Toreador ->  AC25 21% Eva
Revenant -> AC25 Resist all 12

Conqueror -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Desperado -> 80 AP 21% Distant
Hawkeye -> 80AP 24%Accuracy
Triggermage -> 80AP 21%Eva
Warsaint -> 80AP Resist all 12

Templar -> AC40 G8 HP
Fallen -> 21% Smart Speed 20
Avenger -> 21% Eva Speed 20
Saint -> 19% Wise G8NV

Warlock -> AC40 G8 HP
Tzigane -> AC25 Speed 20
Archmage ->G8MV Speed 20
Grand Wizard -> G4 BR G8MV

Updated warmaster vigilance and hawkeye.

[Karvinen]

Lord Knight -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Swash Buckler -> 12% Critical 20 Speed
Warmaster -> 12% Critical 12%Accuracy
Bladesinger -> AC25 21% Eva
Paladin -> AC25 Resist all 12

Corsair -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Nighthawk -> 21% distant 12% critical 
Vigilance ->  40AP 12% critical
Toreador ->  AC25 21% Eva
Revenant -> AC25 Resist all 12

Conqueror -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Desperado -> 80 AP 21% Distant
Hawkeye -> 80AP 12% Critical
Triggermage -> 80AP 21%Eva
Warsaint -> 80AP Resist all 12

Templar -> AC40 G8 HP
Fallen -> 21% Smart Speed 20
Avenger -> 21% Eva Speed 20
Saint -> 19% Wise G8NV

Warlock -> AC40 G8 HP
Tzigane -> AC25 Speed 20
Archmage ->G8MV Speed 20
Grand Wizard -> G4 BR G8MV

on warlock and templar did you mean g4 HP? make it g12 total useful grade effect intsead of g16 like the rest?
several others are like g4 / g4 and g4.5/g6 not sure if you were aiming for that or wanted all to be effective g12

[proeel]

Lord Knight -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Swash Buckler -> 12% Critical 20 Speed
Warmaster -> 12% Critical 12%Accuracy
Bladesinger -> AC25 21% Eva
Paladin -> AC25 Resist all 12

Corsair -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Nighthawk -> 21% distant 12% critical 
Vigilance ->  40AP 12% critical
Toreador ->  AC25 21% Eva
Revenant -> AC25 Resist all 12

Conqueror -> AC40 12% Accuracy
Desperado -> 80 AP 21% Distant
Hawkeye -> 80AP 12% Critical
Triggermage -> 80AP 21%Eva
Warsaint -> 80AP Resist all 12

Templar -> AC40 G8 HP
Fallen -> 21% Smart Speed 20
Avenger -> 21% Eva Speed 20
Saint -> 19% Wise G8NV

Warlock -> AC40 G8 HP
Tzigane -> AC25 Speed 20
Archmage ->G8MV Speed 20
Grand Wizard -> G4 BR G8MV

A bit too OP to me.... Archer is really OP, also a buff to priests
Some symbols do out rank others.... from lowest g8 total to highest g16 total
And i dont see the reason to nerf paladin, as right now,
only 1 out of 5 warriors are paladin, so I think the 24 resist all isnt that attractive to that extra 15 AC

Personally I dont really consider accuracy as an "effective effect"
and I tried to keep things similar to now, just improve the weak one

My original intention is to look at the symbol and I cant decide which one to go as they all share similar value and all base on that particular player's play style

[Metalarg]

xD those rates that SS put are a bit over rated in my opinion, g16 in some cases :X

about paladin, try to hit a target with smart or agility candle on and the ratios of miss are pretty stupids... 3/10 hits landed....

[SimpleStupid]

These are just some of thoughts, I did give more buffs to damage dealer so left a bit buff to defensive symbol, in fact HP rare not really a factor compare to the dps symbol rares, but AC basically out rank all rares in same grade so should be reasonable.
Reason to nerf resist is they were under rated, plus luck&counter hotfix, people might dual priest more often. And G12 is somehow way more beefy than G4 eva isnt it.

PS I think Warmaster could go for 24%accuracy and 12%critical and Vigilance could go for 40AP 24%accuracy.