Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby obh18 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:23 pm

IOWA wrote:
obh18 wrote:Ya they are especially NOKIA

Could get him warned with just three screenshots, but I guess you haven't read through the rules.



lolx you still dont get it.. not the rules problem. Is the way 'zt' behave. Don you get it?....They jsut don want ppl like low lv to get stronger. don get the point still?

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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby Toni » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:28 pm

Also I find it very funny your makng this poll on the Forums where only 50% of the whole Community takes a look inside.
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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby Toni » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:35 pm

Lol wtf your talking about? We don't want them stronger? Yllse and Zypern has twice as many d2/d3 Charas then we have, they just get ripped off that's all, lmao that has no logic at all, we are selling the Tooth's/Eyes and tho you tell me about we don't let the others become stronger.
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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby muking » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:37 pm

Vote for Yes +1 (We should disable PKing in Scenario Quests)
Game ID: TinGMonArcH (Yllse)
Reason: The Scenario Quest expect all player can join it and have a equal chance to give the items!
However, PKing in Scenario quest make this impossible!
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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby Leng » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:38 pm

muking wrote:Vote for Yes(We should disable PKing in Scenario Quests)
Game ID: TinGMonArcH (Yllse)

TingMonArch please reply with +1 :D and gib a reason

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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby kit8989 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:44 pm

vote for yes +1
disable pking in Scenario Quest

This is because every player hv the chance to join the quest and enjoy it!

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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby ahbee » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:43 pm

LOL[/quote]


Ya they are especially NOKIA[/quote]

o.O oni ZT? guest not... i was being pk by yllse too.

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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby Projectx001 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:46 pm

I vote +1 we shouldn't have to buy all of our stuff that is required to dual up and everyone deserves a chance to grab a LG item from the boss.
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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby ArabianArrow » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:02 pm

Still have yet to see a well rounded arguement to disable PK... a lot of questions from the 'against side' are being ignored.

So far we have defense assuming ZT holds an underground business selling items for money (false assumption), and of course, he has no proof to back it up.

Then we have people like SuMMeR spewing out some very contributing points to this topic.
SuMMeR wrote:+1 for disable pk, soon will got bunch of ppl coming to mimimimimi (Y)

SuMMeR wrote:Vote says all, see the result. Not happy just think of your own way what to do.

SuMMeR wrote:So the mimimimi start now (Y)

SuMMeR wrote:mimimimi goes on.... T_T continue to say corruption ... T_T

Well done sir, I can see you put a lot of thought into your posts. Now honestly... if you have nothing to contribute then it's best you just don't post here. You say you don't care about the result, yet you give a +1, contradicting yourself. IF you really didn't care you wouldn't have voted, else you would only be contaminating the data being collected. It's quite depressing seeing things as simple as this needing to be explained.
FYI: The only ones I'd say are 'mimimi'ing' would be you and your comrades. "Btw mr. Tiit, shall I remind you that we tried to win quest (with a very low success) for about 6 months before giving up?" - Jill. Music to my ears ^.^


And lastly, we have people saying they want it to be disabled because they want to have FUN. This is probably the most reasonable argument, since we all play because we want to have fun. Another reason why this is the most logical reason is because it doesn't require proof, unless of course you want to volunteer for Serotonin and Melatonin tests.


Now that we found what both sides are fighting for, we'll need to reach an agreement so that both sides are having fun in-game. Lengz brought up a good idea of weekly PK tournaments. Maybe even revamping the arena system (which I think is impossible, sorry). Please don't say there's fun PK at war and West Glade.

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Re: Should we disable PKing in Scenario Quests?

Postby Shayne » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:02 pm

All I see here is an abuse of the majority vote, with a lack of any good reasons as to why PK should be disabled in quest.

You say: "We want an equal chance to loot items such as legends and tooth/ lich eye/ dragon scale."
I say: Didn't GMs just open a nation transfer to make sure that the nations are balanced, and now all of you are saying that you can't defeat 1 guild with two entire nations. Like i said before, if that is the case, then the problem lies with the players, their lack of hardwork, and lack of teamwork. That's a clear fact that you can't argue against. Since you say that nations are equal, and there are many other D2, D3, and D4 outside of ZT with good rares and TTs to dominate ZT together. You have more than a 50% chance of winning quests, yet you don't. Why? I notice Eleval ignores this question in every post.

You say: "ZT is making me do this, ZT is making us not be able to do quest".
I say: ZT makes you do nothing. You are incredibly ignorant if that is your excuse. ZT doesn't make you lose, you lose on your own accord; your lack of skills, lack of communication, general lack of teamwork.

You say: "ZT is getting all the money, all the legends all the items and doing what they want with it."
I say: Wrong. You have no idea what the drop rate is on legends / items, and how low a chance it is that we get something. Even over all these months of winning quests, I only remember seeing 1 or 2 good legends, and maybe 1 lich eye and 1 balroc tooth. The chance is incredibly low, not to mention, that if we do get a legend, theres a chance that it will be a crappy effect or a very low grade. Even if you try to sell that on the market, people don't want it. There are lots of legends/ tooth / lich eye available on the market. You can gain RE apart from buying with real USD. Have some initiative. If you really wanted one of these items, there are other ways to get them, other than just sit on your ass and cry. I haven't spent a dime on this server, yet, I sold sards and other items to get the RE to even buy myself a cape. If I can do it, so can you.

You say: "Big maze is opening now".
I say: "Why did it take so long? What was the problem with it? Was it just laziness and lack of dedication as with the tickets? We as players would like to know. GMs don't inform us of anything. You might say that it is none of our business and give responses like I've seen here in this topic such as "Don't worry". I don't even see a community GM to inform us of anything or even to say "Hi, this is whats going on this month."

You say: "The majority of players voted + 1 and GMs care about what the players want so tough luck".
I say: That's another ignorant response. The majority of players are voting + 1 for poor reasons, and reasons that can be countered using less drastic changes. Have you considered these other suggestions to looting items provided by the people in this topic. It seems to me these people are very closed minded and one tracked. If I opened a poll on "Increasing the exp rate." and the majority of players voted Yes. Would GMs increase the exp rate? Majority is meaningless when the majority doesn't have a damn clue. You need essence and reasoning. I haven't seen a single person give a good reason to disable PK in dungeon.

I'm sure this post will go ignored and unanswered, and people like Eleval will probably respond to 2 - 3 points and ignore the 2 that are hard for them to reply to. Lol. Equal chance? You already have more than an equal chance. Infact, you probably have more of a chance than if all 3 nations were surrounding lets say a balroc, and only 1 tooth dropped, you'd now have a 1 in like 40 chance to get that. You might even go months without getting anything, then people will come on forums again and complain about the drop rate. :lol:
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